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Father Figure vs Mother Figure (Whitebeard vs Rose Quartz)

Gems can take hours to days to reform, not just seconds. Whitebeard can defeat Rose more than once if necessary. Victory conditions include KO for at least one hour, or incapacitating them for a day.

Rose scales >>>>>> 12GT, but that doesn't make her "close" to WB. WB clearly has the AP advantage.

WB FRA
 
Gems take MINUTES to reform, Pearl only took so long because shes a perfectionist and wasn't in immediate danger, Amethyst has fully reformed in 80 seconds, and both ruby and Sapphire reformed in a few minutes after being poofed by jasper
 
> "Her gemstone is High 6-A in dura"

> The thread to upgrade her gemstone wasn't finished yet, only has two replies, and until it is finished, approved and added, her gemstone is 6-C in dura

Nani?
 
I can add it if you want, or you can go get people to agree to it so this thread doesn't get derailed by an argument that is about to become irrelivant
 
Rose FRA. Also, what's the skill gap here? Rose has a crap ton of experience but I hear One Piece has some really good feats.
 
@The Wright Way

Whitebeard has several decades worth of experience, was a rival to the King of the Pirates Gol D. Roger, is the single most-dangerous pirate in his world, and is the closest in the world to finding the One Piece, and his leadership is good enough to challenge the entire World Government.

Rose is freaking ridiculous tho, she has been fighting ever since humanity was still getting started millennia ago and her army defeated an entire planet of being with comparable experience; two single characters trained by her were also able to defet three battalions of Gems casually.
 
The Wright Way said:
Rose FRA. Also, what's the skill gap here? Rose has a crap ton of experience but I hear One Piece has some really good feats.
In term of experience, Rose has lived for thousands of years, so she had the advantage.

In term of raw skill, that its a bit tricky, both are expert combatants so its hard to say which is the best.
 
Both of them are just stated to be skilled but have no combat skill feats because the writers are too lazy, so it doesn't change much.
 
Calaca Vs said:
If Pops can't put Rose down what's stopping this from being a stomp?
Whitebeard may not be able to kill Rose, but that do not mean that Rose can defeat/kill Whitebead either.

Whitebeard seen to had the AP advantage, he is likely physically stronger than her, his quakes had much greater range, his Gura Gura no Mi will give superior control over the environment and his Haki does overall give him an edge in versatility.
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Both of them are just stated to be skilled but have no combat skill feats because the writers are too lazy, so it doesn't change much. </div>
Well Edward may not had many feats in that regard, but logically speaking he should be as good as a fighter as someone like Luffy or Zoro.
 
His ap advantage isn't such that Rose wouldn't be able to harm him at all, she's not really far behind him at all
 
WeeklyBattles said:
His ap advantage isn't such that Rose wouldn't be able to harm him at all, she's not really far behind him at all
I didn't say Rose wouldn't be able to harm him, but that alone will not be enough.

Especially since we are talking about the same dude who could nearly KO an admiral even with a hole in the chest and half of the face melted, and that when he was both ill and old, a mere shadow of what he was.
 
So, uh, what is Whitebeard's win con? Rose outlasts everything with High 6-A durability and infinite stamina.
 
If Whitebeard can not win under any circumstance, this would be considered a stomp. I pointed out KO and Incap being the only likely cases he could win, and if what the others say are true about it taking up to minutes for Rose to just pop back up, then WB has literally no reliable method of beating Rose. That's a stomp or a mismatch.

(Unless his vibrations can result in the gem shattering, which... High 6-A vs someone who is 6-C w/ limited dura negation = (X) Doubt)
 
Does Rose's Regenerationn stay the same no matter the amount of damage her physical form take?

If yes, then i must sadly admit that this is a stomp in her favour.

If not, then WB could still win by simply inflicting enough damage to force Rose to regenerate for hours/days instead of just minutes, which will count as a win.
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Yeah, unless you destroy the gem, she keeps coming back.
I'm talking about the regenerative capacity of her physical form, not her gemstone.
 
Yeah, unless you destroy the gemstone, the physical form will always come back; the only way to stop the physical form from reforming is bubbling or destroying the gemstone.
 
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