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Fairy Tail Possible Upgrades
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you mean the whole "power of emotions" thing? It doesn't change the fact that it's an outlier.
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Yeah no every other time Erza of someone else is defeated, it's actually mostly them getting smashed/slashed and seemingly knocked out. This is probably the only time we see someone's bones actually breaking. In other words, the damage is moderate most of the time which is why they are able to get back up.
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The fact that magical power is explicitely tied to the strength of one's emotions makes this not an outlier.Theglassman12 said:
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^XING06 said:
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The characters who did those things I mentioned didn't do it through soul manipulation. It was just through sheer willpower which is explictely tied to the power of one's Cosmos.XING06 said:
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What does having your bones broken have to do with your soul? If said character can walk with broken bones, it isn't tied to their soul hax.
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There's already something for that type of powerup Matthew, it's called rage power.
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Her bones weren't broken it was just a temporarly trauma from the hit as shown when she got up. Also, I remind you on all of Erza's battle and ask you when exactly did a terrible physical condition ever limit her in combat? After her feats against Azuma and Kyoka it is obvious her abilty to fight in terrible physical conditions is consistent.
Erza never ever had a magical Aura around her before that she used to destroy the meteor. So it's an obvious power-up. Also, we have proven that power of feelings is connected to ones magical power and Erza was indeed emotionally taken due to Makarov's death.
Also, Erza did not defeat Irene as she was still standing after she was cut and after Erza gave her a head butt. And the fact Erza was able to damage her later on with a head butt is another proof she got a power up. Not to mention her attack pushing down Acnologia (tho it was surprise attack with like a thousand of her weapons).
Power of emotion is used from the begginning of the series so ignoring these power ups that are part of the series just because you don't like the concept and the fact feelings make you more powerful is bull to say the least.
And for the last time Erza used magic not her physical strength to destroy the meteor, and she had for the first time ever a huge magical Aura around her that she used to destroy the meteor.
Erza never ever had a magical Aura around her before that she used to destroy the meteor. So it's an obvious power-up. Also, we have proven that power of feelings is connected to ones magical power and Erza was indeed emotionally taken due to Makarov's death.
Also, Erza did not defeat Irene as she was still standing after she was cut and after Erza gave her a head butt. And the fact Erza was able to damage her later on with a head butt is another proof she got a power up. Not to mention her attack pushing down Acnologia (tho it was surprise attack with like a thousand of her weapons).
Power of emotion is used from the begginning of the series so ignoring these power ups that are part of the series just because you don't like the concept and the fact feelings make you more powerful is bull to say the least.
And for the last time Erza used magic not her physical strength to destroy the meteor, and she had for the first time ever a huge magical Aura around her that she used to destroy the meteor.
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I should also mention that there's some Saint Seiya characters who were able to briefly stay alive after losing all of their blood.
The point I'm trying to make is... It doesn't really matter if it is impossible if it happens.
The point I'm trying to make is... It doesn't really matter if it is impossible if it happens.
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But we know that even the whole power of emotion thing has a limit. Eg. no matter how angry you get if you don't have your second origin, your going to get stomped by someone who does. Also, the flames of emotion example; Natsu was pissed off, which is apparently the strongest emotion (according to Makarov), but he still couldn't beat Zero without Zellal powering him up with his own emotional flame, which is pretty much pure magic with a multipier effect (that's a unique skill though so not everyone can use it).
But we know that even the whole power of emotion thing has a limit. Eg. no matter how angry you get if you don't have your second origin, your going to get stomped by someone who does. Also, the flames of emotion example; Natsu was pissed off, which is apparently the strongest emotion (according to Makarov), but he still couldn't beat Zero without Zellal powering him up with his own emotional flame, which is pretty much pure magic with a multipier effect (that's a unique skill though so not everyone can use it).
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Literally nobody is saying that Fairy Tail characters can increase their power infinitely here. Just that they have some form of Statistics Amplification through emotions.
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So her headbutting her mom shows that she has a powerup? logic at its finest.
Also there's nothing to suggest that she used magic to destroy the meteor when all she did was swing her sword at the meteor.
Also there's nothing to suggest that she used magic to destroy the meteor when all she did was swing her sword at the meteor.
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Isn't rage power the same thing as this? Cause thats what it sounds like to me.Matthew Schroeder said:
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Why is Rage-based boosts always accepted without a problem but Love or Friendship or even Will-based boosts almost always contested?
Is it because the former seems more badass than the later?
Is it because the former seems more badass than the later?
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Yeah I did, all I see was her destroying something she shouldn't have destroyed given the context of the situation.
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So you just ignore the magical aura around her.Theglassman12 said:
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Because rage power is more believable, not to mention it happens to plenty of people in real life.Matthew Schroeder said:
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"More believable"
No it isn't. Emotion-power ups are all equally unrealistic.
Gohan style rage boosts are also nothing like real life adrenaline spikes.
No it isn't. Emotion-power ups are all equally unrealistic.
Gohan style rage boosts are also nothing like real life adrenaline spikes.
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Again even with rage boost, it wouldn't work see my previous Natsu example.
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Gray's bones weren't broken. Again Erza is the only one where we explicitly know how badly she is damaged. As I've stated before, there is a limit to how much you can boost and I'm pretty sure that the meteor feat is too much, taking into account her physical condition, the fact that she used up a lot of mana before, and the fact that her mother was stomping her casually.
Again even with rage boost, it wouldn't work see my previous Natsu example.
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Gray's bones weren't broken. Again Erza is the only one where we explicitly know how badly she is damaged. As I've stated before, there is a limit to how much you can boost and I'm pretty sure that the meteor feat is too much, taking into account her physical condition, the fact that she used up a lot of mana before, and the fact that her mother was stomping her casually.
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No amount of magical aura is going to tell me that someone with only one functioning arm in their ENTIRE BODY is going to destroy the meteor.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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Have you seen what people can do when they get furious? You'd be surprised on what they can do.Matthew Schroeder said:
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Except it's fiction. Crap like that is possible. That's arguing from incredulity.
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I think it is pretty impossible to have your head split open like that and live. But it happened here.
I think it is pretty impossible to have your head split open like that and live. But it happened here.
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Because rage power is more believable, not to mention it happens to plenty of people in real life.
It's more believable that random rage gives you a power rather than the will to protect all those you love and care about? You know rage most of the time comes from love for your dear right?
It's more believable that random rage gives you a power rather than the will to protect all those you love and care about? You know rage most of the time comes from love for your dear right?
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You're seriously throwing that whole "it's fiction" argument? No, that's not how it works. If it was something like Hitman reborn, where Tsuna was able to manipulate gravity to hold his bones in place, then I would buy that. But there's NOTHING that was shown throughout the situation that Erza could move with her bones shattered.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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Read my edited comment. Also it is. Erza and the character Matt brought up are proof of this.Theglassman12 said:
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