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Fairy Tail: Magic Has Soul!

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@Glass

He tried to absorb their soul, and all 3 of them were able to resist his curse ability.

I will try and find the scan for it.
 
I read that part, and nothing suggests that they resisted it. The only reason why they got out is because Lucy had to lie to franmalth that natsu was a celestial spirit so he can get the jump on him
 
@Glass They were still resisting the effect of his curse. If they weren't able to resist the effect of his curse, then wouldn't he already absorbed their souls without any problem.
 
Nothing at all throughout the entire absorption process was it implied that they resisted it. Franmalth not only said that it was futile, he even said that he's very close to absorbing their souls.
 
Glass, here are the evidence

  • https://www.**********.com/fairy-tail/379/10
  • https://www.**********.com/fairy-tail/379/11
  • https://www.**********.com/fairy-tail/379/12
  • https://www.**********.com/fairy-tail/379/13
  • https://www.**********.com/fairy-tail/379/14
  • https://www.**********.com/fairy-tail/379/15
  • https://www.**********.com/fairy-tail/379/16
 
@Glass

If they didn't have any soul absorption resistance, then there wouldn't be any struggle. He would have been able to absorb their souls with ease, but instead he had problems since natsu, lucy and happy were resisting it.
 
@Nedge none of those scans shows that they resisted it at all. Franmalth flat out said "I'm almost done ripping your souls out"

@Kaiser there was no struggle to begin with, Franmalth said that there's no use fighting back, and thinking won't save your souls, especially when he later says "Too late, I'm almost done absorbing you"
 
@Glass

How was there no struggle? He was clearly having problems with absorbing them. If they didn't have any soul absorption resistance, wouldn't he have taken their soul with ease.

Also him saying "it's useless to struggle" or "too late, i'm almost done absorbing you", can simply be taken as him trying to break them down mentally.

Natsu, lucy and happy were not showing any signs of letting their soul go, so franmalth saying "too late, i'm almost done absorbing you" means nothing really.
 
@Kaiser he did not have any issue at all. If they were to resist it, that would mean that the absorption wouldn't have worked to begin with.

No it's not just "break down mentality" when he's on the brink of tearing out their souls.

That's not them resisting it at all. Nothing throughout the entire scene contradicts the absorption process working.
 
Theglassman12 said:
@Kaiser he did not have any issue at all. If they were to resist it, that would mean that the absorption wouldn't have worked to begin with.
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That is false. Just because you would eventually get your soul absorbed doesn't mean you cannot have resistance. The fact would be that they can resist it for a period of time. Being resistant to something doesn't always = it has no effect. Ivy Valentine is an example of this.
 
@Dragon how was that resistance at all when Franmalth showed no sign of struggle with the absorption to begin with.
 
From what I see from the scans, they were resisting said effects. However, said resistance is extremely weak.
 
I agree with the magic thing, but I'm neutral about the celestial spirits. Natsu &co. resisting soul absorption it's fine IMO.
 
ok, now for the next thing in mind, where was it stated that zeref resisted all the tartaros demon's power?
 
I'm with glassman on this. Reading that, I never once thought they were resisting the soul rip, just that the process takes a bit longer because they aren't purely souls. If anything, it should be noted in Franmalth's profile that his Absorbtion is only immediate against souls outside bodies.
 
@DragonEmperor where was that said, especially when he never once met them to begin with except for Mard geer, who he just killed for the heck of it.
 
TriforcePower1 said:
His statement that they couldn't kill him. That's why, for example, he doesn't resist mindhax but resists death manipulation.
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That's right, it what was agreed.
 
keyes and franmalth never once met zeref at all, so why does he resist abilities that he never encountered?
 
@Glass

Franmalth was indeed having problem with absorbing their souls, since they were doing their best in resisting it. You can clearly see that natsu's veins are bulging, and he trying his best to resist the effect of franmalth's curse. Just because you can resist soul absorption, it doesn't mean you're immune to soul absorption. Natsu might try his best to resist soul absorption, but he can still get his soul absorbed.

Saying "it's useless to struggle" or "too late, i'm almost done absorbing you" has always been something that bad guys say in order to get into the main characters mind, there is nothing suggesting it otherwise.

Franmalth curse magic has always absorbed souls with pretty ease, the fact that he was struggling with natsu, lucy and happy tells us that they were resisting his ability. Natsu himself said "I won't let you have my soul, it stays here with me" implying that he was the one preventing his soul from being absorbed.
 
>Never encountered Keyes or Franmalth

>He created them

Seems legit. He stated that none of his demons could kill him, which would include them as well.
 
Zeref created the Etherious some 400 years ago with the express and sole purpose of killing him. They failed. He got resistances to thinks that were not countered by his regen.
 
@Kaiser There is something to suggest otherwise, especially when Franmalth wasn't acting surprised that his soul hax wasn't working.
 
Theglassman12 said:
@DragonEmperor where was that said, especially when he never once met them to begin with except for Mard geer, who he just killed for the heck of it.
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What?

He created them all for the sole purpose of killing him and they all failed
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
Theglassman12 said:
@DragonEmperor where was that said, especially when he never once met them to begin with except for Mard geer, who he just killed for the heck of it.
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What?
He created them all for the sole purpose of killing him and they all failed
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Evidence link: http://www.************/uploads/chapters/2004/456/62.png
 
ok, and some of the resistance are contradicted more than once, like the soul manipulation that he should resist, even though he was affected by the same ability to begin with, like larcade and natsu.
 
@Glass

Natsu, lucy and happy were clearly not showing any signs of giving up, so there is nothing suggesting that anything he was saying has anything to do with what was happening.

The only thing that would make sense, is the fact that he was getting into their heads. Something many bad guys do in order to get the main character to give.
 
@Glass

Larcade's ability didn't effect him, he was resisting it. If he wasn't resisting it, he would have already lost his soul.
 
@Kaiser right, and Lucy totally did not bail that whole "hold on to your souls" just for a brand new one of lying to Franmalth about Natsu being a spirit so he can hit him hard enough to let the others go.
 
Zeref was affected but he was still functioning unlike the hundreds of thousands of people crippled by his spell. In the case of Natsu, the simple conclusion is that Natsu's soul destruction is greater than either Franmalth or Larcade's soul manip.
 
@Blank that's not how it works, just because he was functioning doesn't change the fact that he was still affected by it. Natsu also affecting his soul as well doesn't back up his resistance at all when he has no feats of resisting the effects to begin with.
 
Larcade Dragneel Quick showcase of Soul Manipulation

  • https://www.**********.com/fairy-tail/508/11
  • https://www.**********.com/fairy-tail/508/20
    • These balls look like to souls ascending similar to those souls after Franmalth's defeat
      • https://www.**********.com/fairy-tail/379/24
 
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