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I am still not sure about that, I mean both were just playing around.His Human Form is stronger than Selene's
Like blatantly, he is doing much better
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I am still not sure about that, I mean both were just playing around.His Human Form is stronger than Selene's
Like blatantly, he is doing much better
Like I said, Base Natsu and Base Suzaku are not Human Form Dragon God level yet...Doesn't change anything I said and we've already seen that FDK attacks + Suzaku's named attacks can't scratch the labyrinth, let alone a weakened dragon god who isn't trying and who also happens to be the weakest dragon god. There's also the fact that they need 72 orbs to be broken in order to stand a chance. Given everything we've seen so far in this series, they're only comparable to dragon gods who are very weakened + aren't trying at all. Sure you could argue that Abyss and dragon force can change this, but as of now everything else they're doing has yet to scratch Dogra, let alone hurt him even a little.
Nope. He's the weakest dragon god.His Human Form is stronger than Selene's
Like blatantly, he is doing much better
Is he really? Selene was beating him just as bad, maybe even worse and she only ended up fumbling the bag just after admitting that she wouldn't mind losing to Suzaku.His Human Form is stronger than Selene's
Like blatantly, he is doing much better
When did I say that in my post?Like I said, Base Natsu and Base Suzaku are not Human Form Dragon God level yet...
Nobody has disagreed with that... You keep having an attitude that implies we're saying "Base Natsu and Base Suzaku are totally Full Power Human Form Dragon God level"
That statement was about Dogramag from 100 Years Ago, and Elefseria blatantly said he's been gathering more power and getting stronger since then...Nope. He's the weakest dragon god.
Well he's at least more durable than herIs he really? Selene was beating him just as bad, maybe even worse and she only ended up fumbling the bag just after admitting that she wouldn't mind losing to Suzaku.
Your attitude man, you just have a vibe of "I proved everyone wrong"When did I say that in my post?
All I did was comment on how big the gap is between human dragon gods and the rest of the cast, you made up the rest.That statement was about Dogramag from 100 Years Ago, and Elefseria blatantly said he's been gathering more power and getting stronger since then...
Well he's at least more durable than her
Your attitude man, you just have a vibe of "I proved everyone wrong"
Despite us not disagreeing with the notion that Base Natsu and Base Suzaku aren't Human Form Dragon God level yet
It disproves nothing. He could have gotten stronger yet would still be weaker than Selene. We'd need actual confirmation that Dogramag is stronger than her in some way rather than just a guess.That statement was about Dogramag from 100 Years Ago, and Elefseria blatantly said he's been gathering more power and getting stronger since then...
He isn’t. This chapter he states that he woke up with little power.I am still not sure about that, I mean both were just playing around.
Ignia is the one that made the Labyrinth? That doesn't make sense at all...“Doguramag: of course i did not die just like that. I returned to the earth after eating his dragon's heart. After eating his heart, it was a miracle that i woke up. Im alive with another life with these small power. I gained my power inside the earth, and after 100 years I'm reborn.”
If that translation is any bit correct, then it is as caveman DG said, he isn’t as strong. Along with the other translation of:
“Suzaku: Question. Does this have anything to do with the labyrinth.
Doguramag: ignia is the one who made it. In order to gain power inside the earth, a huge labyrinth is made.”
Labyrinth wasn’t him at all.
again, if it is correct.
So Dogra wasn't the one who constructed it, it was all Ignia? Elefseria was wrong? I'm confused.“Doguramag: of course i did not die just like that. I returned to the earth after eating his dragon's heart. After eating his heart, it was a miracle that i woke up. Im alive with another life with these small power. I gained my power inside the earth, and after 100 years I'm reborn.”
If that translation is any bit correct, then it is as caveman DG said, he isn’t as strong. Along with the other translation of:
“Suzaku: Question. Does this have anything to do with the labyrinth.
Doguramag: ignia is the one who made it. In order to gain power inside the earth, a huge labyrinth is made.”
Labyrinth wasn’t him at all.
again, if it is correct.
Yes and no. More context, ignia gave him the idea to build itSo Dogra wasn't the one who constructed it, it was all Ignia? Elefseria was wrong? I'm confused.
That makes more senseWait someone said that it might just be that Ignia gave him the idea of making it not that he made it himself
Really other than the rough tls which can be mistranslated everything else is pretty normalMan, you can really feel that Hiro doesn't know what he's talking about with the Labyrinth and Dogramag
There's so much shit being said and none of it is consistent
I'm just sick of the power scaling weirdnessReally other than the rough tls which can be mistranslated everything else is pretty normal
I'm just sick of the power scaling weirdness
One second Selene is saying Humans are strong and will make up the difference against the other Dragon Gods, saying Suzaku is stronger than her Human Form
Then another second, she's saying a Human has no hope of matching a Dragon God and that only a Dragon God can match another Dragon God
Then she's saying that Fairy Tail is the secret to defeating the other Dragon Gods and they're what will help win the day
******* make up your mind
I've seen stuff like this before. It's so hilarious.I'm just sick of the power scaling weirdness
One second Selene is saying Humans are strong and will make up the difference against the other Dragon Gods, saying Suzaku is stronger than her Human Form
Then another second, she's saying a Human has no hope of matching a Dragon God and that only a Dragon God can match another Dragon God
Then she's saying that Fairy Tail is the secret to defeating the other Dragon Gods and they're what will help win the day
******* make up your mind
Oh you meant Selene through out the arc. Oh yea she needs to be more specific, because all her statement except a few can be interpreted differentlyI'm just sick of the power scaling weirdness
One second Selene is saying Humans are strong and will make up the difference against the other Dragon Gods, saying Suzaku is stronger than her Human Form
Then another second, she's saying a Human has no hope of matching a Dragon God and that only a Dragon God can match another Dragon God
Then she's saying that Fairy Tail is the secret to defeating the other Dragon Gods and they're what will help win the day
******* make up your mind
Well on the bright side for the powerscaling, Selene doesn't actually think Fairy Tail can match the DGs in power. She says this chapter that even if everyone in the labyrinth fought Dogramag at once they wouldn't be able to do any damage. I guess the only reason she's saying they are her best "power" against the other DGs is because through teamwork they can do what normally wouldn't be possible. And they've already taken down 2 DGsI'm just sick of the power scaling weirdness
One second Selene is saying Humans are strong and will make up the difference against the other Dragon Gods, saying Suzaku is stronger than her Human Form
Then another second, she's saying a Human has no hope of matching a Dragon God and that only a Dragon God can match another Dragon God
Then she's saying that Fairy Tail is the secret to defeating the other Dragon Gods and they're what will help win the day
******* make up your mind
She has no idea what she's talking about then...Well on the bright side for the powerscaling, Selene doesn't actually think Fairy Tail can match the DGs in power. She says this chapter that even if everyone in the labyrinth fought Dogramag at once they wouldn't be able to do any damage. I guess the only reason she's saying they are her best "power" against the other DGs is because through teamwork they can do what normally wouldn't be possible. And they've already taken down 2 DGs
Lol no.Man don't care about 100 YQ
He just wants to get back to Eden Zero lmao
Now that I think about it, wasn't that Acno technically nerfed as well. Looking at Dogramag and Aldoron and how they need conduits to circulate and control their magic, it reminds me of how Acnologia wanted to do the same thing with the dragon slayer bodies. Plus there's the whole being held down by the entire continent thing. He definitely had more raw power than the DGs but control wise he may have been in a similar situation to the DGs nerfed states.She has no idea what she's talking about then...
Cause the power scaling is whack beyond belief
Natsu+Other 6 Dragon Slayer's powers one-tapped an Acnologia way stronger than all the 5 Dragon Gods
Power of friendship nonsense.She has no idea what she's talking about then...
Cause the power scaling is whack beyond belief
Natsu+Other 6 Dragon Slayer's powers one-tapped an Acnologia way stronger than all the 5 Dragon Gods
Hiro just don't care about power scaling...Now that I think about it, wasn't that Acno technically nerfed as well. Looking at Dogramag and Aldoron and how they need conduits to circulate and control their magic, it reminds me of how Acnologia wanted to do the same thing with the dragon slayer bodies. Plus there's the whole being held down by the entire continent thing. He definitely had more raw power than the DGs but control wise he may have been in a similar situation to the DGs nerfed states.
Elf beat Dog dude, and Elf was terrified of Selene, the level of difference is clear as day, Plus dog is using his human form and appears to not be struggling, and it is possible that Elf in human form defeated Dog in dragon form From the panels. His thing is knowledge, so I would take his word above what was assumed.He isn’t. This chapter he states that he woke up with little power.
I have no idea how anyone can believe that after so many statements of him being the weakest DG.
Jesus Christ the reading comprehension.
Acno was weakened back then that allowed for Natsu to land the decisive blow.She has no idea what she's talking about then...
Cause the power scaling is whack beyond belief
Natsu+Other 6 Dragon Slayer's powers one-tapped an Acnologia way stronger than all the 5 Dragon Gods
Yes, especially when he was motion sick, can’t use his powers properly.Now that I think about it, wasn't that Acno technically nerfed as well. Looking at Dogramag and Aldoron and how they need conduits to circulate and control their magic, it reminds me of how Acnologia wanted to do the same thing with the dragon slayer bodies. Plus there's the whole being held down by the entire continent thing. He definitely had more raw power than the DGs but control wise he may have been in a similar situation to the DGs nerfed states.
It can be because of her nature of messing with people, she did says she wouldn‘t mind losing to Suzaku because he had her son’s power.I'm just sick of the power scaling weirdness
One second Selene is saying Humans are strong and will make up the difference against the other Dragon Gods, saying Suzaku is stronger than her Human Form
Then another second, she's saying a Human has no hope of matching a Dragon God and that only a Dragon God can match another Dragon God
Then she's saying that Fairy Tail is the secret to defeating the other Dragon Gods and they're what will help win the day
******* make up your mind
Yeah Mashima most likely has a much looser viewpoint on the powerscaling than here. To him the power of a character is all about what's decided in their initial characterization. For example Erza was made to be a female mage that has more power than even the main character. So for as long as the series goes on that generally remains true (there are exceptions of course). The real problem with the dragon gods is that he set a group of people ,all around the same strength, as the antagonists for the entire series, while maintaining the same formula of increasing the character power and feats rapidly from arc to arc. It wouldn't really be acceptable to just constantly have the characters getting stomped with the way he writes, so he comes up with ways for them to look like they can somewhat contend with, but still not reach or surpass DG level. Other than having each dragon god be stronger than the last (which would somewhat break the setting) the only way he can go about it is with nerfs.Hiro just don't care about power scaling...
Dogramag is just a mess of scaling
He's the weakest Dragon God, is nerfed to hell apparently, and is only in his Human Form... Yet Suzaku and Natsu can't do shit to him
Meanwhile Natsu was able to defeat Aldoron and Suzaku was able to beat Human Form Selene
I genuinely think Hiro has no idea what he wants to do scaling wise, cause this is ridiculous at this point... I have no idea what he's gonna have Natsu do to be able to 1v1 Ignia one day, because he just keeps making the gap be bigger
At this point, it's just getting really frustrating and annoying, I want this arc to be over already so we can move on to better things
The only weakest that we’ve seen so far is the water dragon imoIt's been 4 Arcs so far, and we still apparently aren't even close to the weakest level of the Dragon Gods
I'm just sick of no progress being made...