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Woulda been cool if Natsu kept the tat
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Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest Discussion Thread: Post-Void Saga
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I don't think gajeel wants anything to do with Misaki thats the most scared I ever seen him look
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fr, shit looked awesome. But sadly a one time amp
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My boy gajeel finna solo misaki you'll see
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I’ll see you being wrong.
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*right
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Misaki wins via magic power crush Lol
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Fairy Tail's humor has always been really hit or miss if I'm being honest, it's not classic Dragon Ball, although that is probably the funniest anime to ever exist. The 'erza scary haha' and the S-class constantly making Natsu look pathetic lost their humor really quick. The show is at its funniest when Natsu does some really out of pocket shit or when two characters banter.
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I watch it for its drama/action really. If I laugh then I laugh
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My top 10 favorite FT characters ( not in order bar Gajeel )
1. Gajeel ( best boy )
2. Laxus
3. Jellal
4. Mavis
5. Zeref
6. Acnologia
7. Hades
8. Irene
9. Gildarts
10. Ultear ( best girl )
Honorable mentions:
1. Gajeel ( best boy )
2. Laxus
3. Jellal
4. Mavis
5. Zeref
6. Acnologia
7. Hades
8. Irene
9. Gildarts
10. Ultear ( best girl )
Honorable mentions:
- Happy
- Wendy
- August
- Mirajane
- Levy/Lucy
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Ngl to you......he's on the lower end spectrum of top 20 ( probably anywhere from #15-#20 )No Natsu?
I wouldn't necessarily say that's a bad thing, just goes to show how well mashima did with his side characters if I like them so much
Though don't worry, Natsu>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gray on my list and that's what matters most
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Honestly, the show has focused on just Natsu as a character three times in the series, and only one of them was well written.Ngl to you......he's on the lower end spectrum of top 20 ( probably anywhere from #15-#20 )
I wouldn't necessarily say that's a bad thing, just goes to show how well mashima did with his side characters if I like them so much
Though don't worry, Natsu>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gray on my list and that's what matters most
Igneel's death was the saddest moment in the show by a mile, but they treat it like its nothing. While everyone else is saying goodbye to the dragons and cracking jokes, Natsu is sobbing over the still steaming corpse of his murdered father less than 100 yards away and no one comforts him. NO ONE. Aren't they supposed to be his family? No Lucy, no Erza, the only person to even look in his ******* direction other than Gajeel is Happy, who can only stare helplessly as his best friend completely breaks down.
And the most tragic thing is, Natsu can only drag himself back to his feet again, as all he knows how to do is keep moving, even if it means denying himself the proper time to grieve over losing the person he has spent his entire adult life chasing.
Natsu isn't effected in the slightest the next scene, back to his normal self. There was so much more to do with it and they did jack shit. And we all know how god awful they butchered END. But Natsu and beta heaven had me crying in the club it was so good.
For a protagonist, Natsu is weirdly underrated. The show spends 90% of the time having his friends treat him like shit, with him at the butt of nearly every joke, and generally not taking him seriously as a mage, then at the end of every arc he usually pops off and gives us some peak fiction fights like Natsu vs Zero, vs Hades, vs Future Rogue, vs Sting and Rogue, vs Zeref both times. Natsu's fights are the only thing stopping Fairy Tail from being mid, other than the music and Zeref's story.
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My top 10 FT characters
1. Zeref
2. Natsu
3. Wendy
4. Gajeel
5. Laxus
6. Erza
7. Jellal
8. Acnologia
9. Ultear
10. Grayhe's actually a very underrated character, and he gets way more hate then he deserves
1. Zeref
2. Natsu
3. Wendy
4. Gajeel
5. Laxus
6. Erza
7. Jellal
8. Acnologia
9. Ultear
10. Gray
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He gets less hate than he deserves
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1. Yeah while I do think Natsu was somewhat more better written than people give him credit for Mashima gave WAY more development to his side characters
2. Wish we saw some flashbacks of Natsu during his 1 Year Training trip angsting over Igneel's death, would have been some nice development. Since it's just him and Happy alone, he doesn't need to hide behind a smile anymore, let out his tears
3. The END plot line had such hype and when END stomped God Dimaria I was so ******* hyped........then that shit was so done so badly it honestly made me cringe. I thought we were going to get a new insight into Natsu's character........but dear god........
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Cap, but okay
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My Top 10 Favorite Characters I love most of them, so this is the best I could do
1. Natsu
2. Zeref
3. Erza
4. Laxus
5. Acnologia
6. Lucy
7. Mavis
8. Wendy
9. Gray
10. Gajeel
1. Natsu
2. Zeref
3. Erza
4. Laxus
5. Acnologia
6. Lucy
7. Mavis
8. Wendy
9. Gray
10. Gajeel
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Here's my list:
1. Wendy
1. Wendy
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1. One thing people forget is that Natsu is a major reason for most of casts development in the series. He develops through the development of others. Sure he has some very good development pieces throughout the series on his own, but his character shines the most when he's facilitating change in others.
2. Natsu's not really a crier tho. Iirc Natsu's only cried 3 times in the series (Igneel's death, Future Lucy's death, and Gray's almost death in Alvarez.) he gets more angry than sad most of the time.
3. The END stuff was fine imo. It was more about regular Natsu and Zeref to begin with. The Gray stuff was there to show just how much they care for each other by the end of the series. They went from absolutely not being able to stand each other to being best friends by the end of the series. Making Natsu Gray's greatest enemy was just there to show their progression. This lead into one of the few times Natsu has shed actual tears in the series. Which makes that moment all the more impactful.
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1. Mirajane (shocker)
2. Hades
3. Dimaria yesta
4. Erza
5. Laxus
6. Selene
7. Gildarts
8. Brandish
9. Ikaruga
10. Natsu
Had mard geer originally but when I edited it I forgot but he's like number 6
2. Hades
3. Dimaria yesta
4. Erza
5. Laxus
6. Selene
7. Gildarts
8. Brandish
9. Ikaruga
10. Natsu
Had mard geer originally but when I edited it I forgot but he's like number 6
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suprised minerva isn't there despite your pfp
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Just because he is a static character isn't an excuse to have almost no depth. Goku is a static character, but has tons of depth. Yes, Natsu is at his best when he changes the world around him, but that would be all the more richer if we see Natsu's own change and how it lead to him changing others. Even static characters need development, just not the same type positive character arcs do. We we're never saying Natsu's character was badly written, just not explored quite enough for a protagonist. He didn't have a single well written or well explored development piece until the final Zeref fight and beta-heaven imo.
Take Igneel's death, as I said before they didn't do enough with it. It probably led to Natsu getting on the sigma grind during the one year time skip, and yeah he came back a freakin' monster, but not only does no one ever say, 'hey sorry the father we used mock you for believing in died saving all of us', we get one good admittedly awesome speech from the other dragons about Igneel being a gigachad, but that's about it.
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Well it an ordered list its difficult when I might like certain chars the same. So she would be around dimaria realistically
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1. True but still sucks. Natsu needed and still needs WAY more development, heavily static bro
2. It doesn't even have to be crying. Maybe even just straight up anger. Like we see him just blasting trees or something and having
3. No it wasn't......Mashima built up END quite well.......then failed to deliver.......
I will never forgive him for that
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hasn't natsu been natsu since day one?
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Honestly, I'm scared for the next time they try to develop Natsu. I would rather there be no development than lazy development like they tried to do with Natsu vs Gildarts and the Dragon/Demon seed.1. True but still sucks. Natsu needed and still needs WAY more development, heavily static bro
2. It doesn't even have to be crying. Maybe even just straight up anger. Like we see him just blasting trees or something and havingVietnamFlashback literally being torn apart by Acnologia. And just screaming in anger and losing his shit, it would fit since he is a very emotional person and all, and is part dragon, who are famous for their rampages both in Fairy Tail in Real Life Lore
3. No it wasn't......Mashima built up END quite well.......then failed to deliver.......
I will never forgive him for that
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Man said Goku has depth and not Natsu
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natsu to me is weird I only like him when he gets serious. Aka igneel tattoo, blaze dragon king mode, dragon force, and when he says "I'm all fired up" basically his hype moments make him a top 10 to me but don't like him that much casually
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1. I like his development, we see him open up more and show his care for his friends more, not to mention his arc about accepting his humanity1. True but still sucks. Natsu needed and still needs WAY more development, heavily static bro
2. It doesn't even have to be crying. Maybe even just straight up anger. Like we see him just blasting trees or something and havingVietnamFlashback literally being torn apart by Acnologia. And just screaming in anger and losing his shit, it would fit since he is a very emotional person and all, and is part dragon, who are famous for their rampages both in Fairy Tail in Real Life Lore
3. No it wasn't......Mashima built up END quite well.......then failed to deliver.......
I will never forgive him for that
2. Bruh, what's wrong with his reaction, he was balling and in tears, that fits Natsu way more
3. I'm glad the story didn't go the generic Inner Hollow and Nine Tails route, Erza being the one to stop Natsu and Gray from fighting was so fitting
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Man don't turn against me Mitch that ain't what I'm saying. I'm just saying every time we explore who Goku is, it's always really good, but with Natsu, I feel as if the well written ones didn't come until near the end of the series.Man said Goku has depth and not Natsu
Natsu lighting his soul, his everything, on fire, standing all alone against Zeref, overpowering the source of all magic, love, with his own power, his own love for his friends, was raw as shit.
Seeing Natsu break into tears at the sight of Mavis and his father when he went to Beta-Heaven, having his father tell him that he is special, even outside of his relationships, that he is kind and compassionate, got me bawling.
Natsu using Dragonization and defeating Animus, telling him he is willing to throw away all that he is because without Fairy Tail he thinks of himself as nothing, was not only the most badass shit in Fairy Tail no contest, was almost tragic.
When Natsu goes off, he goes off. I just want more of it, not END and Gray getting jobbed by Erza.
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I once talked about how Natsu has a very interesting character arc in X792 about himself and his identity, and honestly it's one of the most subtly well-written things I've seen in a while.
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Well yeah, who Natsu really is and what his backstory entails was tied to one of the biggest mysteries in the story, of course it wasn't going to be directly addressed until the final arc. Natsu acts more as a supportive MC who helps everyone else deal with their problems until eventually it's his turn.
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Am I the only one who hates that lesson? I'm going to be burned at the stake for this, but I did not like Natsu vs Gildarts.
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This sounds super shallow, I know, and him becoming human makes sense, if a little safe, but I would have liked Natsu to have chosen the Dragon seed, I just find the possibilities of that more interesting. One of the main themes of the final Acnologia fight was that not all dragons were bad, that they vary, just like people. Yet the series treats Acnologia and Irene becoming dragons as bad things but fail to understand the context of their respective circumstances.
I saw Natsu choosing neither coming from a mile away, and while yeah it seems deep to have Natsu lose everything that makes him special, which in turn makes him special, throwing away the END story line to do it, and blatantly ignoring the final message of dragons not being bad so we could get 'he is stepping into his own' didn't feel like a fair trade off.
Tldr; Natsu choosing to be human isn't bad, just what we gave up for us to get there will always leave a bitter taste in my mouth. This is just personal opinion though, nothing more than wishful thinking.
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The lesson was to teach Natsu that there is someone thats going to be stronger then him so he needs to learn what to do in battle. It pretty much put him down the pedestal because he was someone who just rush into battle and always wants to just fight someone even if they outclass him
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But from the first few episodes, the show constantly shoves the fact there are people stronger than him down our throats. Natsu was already weaker than the S-class, they were obvious benchmarks for him to surpass. Natsu fighting despite being outclassed was what made him Natsu. He does not have the option to throw his hands up and say 'welp I tried' every time someone stronger comes along. He has a family to protect, running and surrendering isn't in the cards.
This isn't Master Roshi beating Goku, (another Dragon Ball analogy I know, but it is the benchmark for all shounen), where Roshi teaches Goku, who had been a force of nature up until that point, that there will always be someone stronger and to never stop reaching new heights.
Natsu wasn't really on that high of pedestal to begin with. It was kicking down for the sake of a bumper stick slogan lesson that goes against who Natsu is. Even Master Makarov tries enforce this complacency in the very next fight, and thankfully Natsu seems to have realized giving into fear will not help him grow despite what Gildarts said and fights anyway.
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