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He's asking wheter or not special attack and attack stats are considered Game Mechanics.
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Espeon Vs Issei
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Like the difference between them or the stats them selves?
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Like, since the move specifies that the special attack stat and attack stat are swapped, since just number stats aren't a real thing wouldn't it actually mean the power? Using the Acid Armor example from earlier, Espeon would get the defense buff but not take any damage. The difference between the two is that Acid Armor is them putting Acid on themselves whereas Issei's Infinity Power is just the power's existence. Boosting himself doesn't change any aspect about the power besides size. If Espeon were to use swap, then it would be swapping powers including the one where the user passively has their organs shut down.
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No, Espeon only swaps the change of size of the power, not the power itself.
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Belly Drum
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It swaps Special Attack stat and Attack stat which is the power.
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Power Swap switches the user's attack stat '''stages''' and special attack stat '''stages''' with the target's Attack stat '''stages''' and Special Attack stat '''stages'''
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Right. It doesn't switch Acid Armor because Acid Armor isn't the acid, it's the defense. But with Issei, the attack power is the self harming acid.
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also for those that don't know what stages are, they are the terms used for the level of stat boosts and stat reductionsOverlord775 said:
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Attack = Physical Hits
Special Attack = the rest
Special Attack = the rest
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Then Issei Boosts Espeon, who then reflects the Boost back on to him.
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DragonEmperor23 said:
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I mean...I guess that would work, but I doubt Issei's that smart.
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Espeon FRA
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This is Natsu all over again reee.The real cal howard said:
Intelligence: Academically dumb, but a skilled fighter who's capable of thinking up clever strategies on the fly, he was even capable of outsmarting Cao Cao with a little bit of prep (note that Cao Cao only had the upper hand because he had researched Issei's abilities thoroughly beforehand), and usually exploits his opponents' weaknesses in the middle of a fight.
Issei's smart enough to put it together, especially when abilities like Espeon are commonplace in the opponents he fights.
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Can Issei's Boost even target another person?
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-Magic Bounce: Espeon's hidden ability. It is immune to any moves that don't do damage. In fact, it reflects any moves that fit the bill, doing the effect to the opponent instead.Overlord775 said:DragonEmperor23 said:
???
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Yes, it's called Transfer.ApiesDeathbyLazors said:
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So, instead of just boosting multiple times, Issei's going to boost then transfer to activate magic bounce to get another boost that espeon can just power swap anyway. Am I getting that right?
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One Boost.
Espeon swaps.
Issei Boosts Espeon.
Issei is boosted.
Espeon swaps.
They both now have one Boost.
Espeon swaps.
Issei Boosts Espeon.
Issei is boosted.
Espeon swaps.
They both now have one Boost.
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Tfw I actually forgot about Power Swap and that Transfer was an actually clever win condition.
Keep in mind that even if Espeon doesn't power swap, Espeon can still copy via Psych Up or debuff via Charm/Tail Whip/Baby Doll Eyes/etc.
Also, when Espeon does get boosted due to Magic Bounce reflection or power copy or swap, Stored Power pretty much one shots due to the amount the cat's been boosted and how that move works.
Keep in mind that even if Espeon doesn't power swap, Espeon can still copy via Psych Up or debuff via Charm/Tail Whip/Baby Doll Eyes/etc.
Also, when Espeon does get boosted due to Magic Bounce reflection or power copy or swap, Stored Power pretty much one shots due to the amount the cat's been boosted and how that move works.
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Not if Espeon can steal the Boosts which it can.GyroNutz said:
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Also, when Espeon does get boosted due to Magic Bounce reflection or power copy or swap, Stored Power pretty much one shots due to the amount the cat's been boosted and how that move works.
What is Stored Power?
What is Stored Power?
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With a single boost Issei would still have an AP lower than Espeon's durability
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Belly Drum maxes attack in exchange of half of your HP. Power Swap would copy that boost without the HP loss.YungManzi said:
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Except Belly Drum is an exchange. There is no exchange here, the power is both empowering and shuts down your organs.ApiesDeathbyLazors said:
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Stored Power deal more damage the more stat boost the use has.DragonEmperor23 said:
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How much?GyroNutz said:
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So pokemon can't have any boosting moves because stats don't exist?YungManzi said:
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No, Espeon has 7/8 chances of being maleYungManzi said:
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