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This is what Madara currently has on his profile. "Soul Manipulation and Non-Physical Interaction (Users of Susano'o can interact with the soul. Scales to Itachi's Susano'o that can wield Totsuka Blade, which doesn't have a physical form)" Madara doesn't have the Totsuka Blade and has never shown sealing properties with his Susanoo.
rhmm......the rating is because Susanoo can wield it, despite Madara not having it, due having a Susanoo, he should be able to...
 
rhmm......the rating is because Susanoo can wield it, despite Madara not having it, due having a Susanoo, he should be able to...
I don't even know how they misunderstood stood it as Madara having the Totsuka Blade when all it says is that Madara's Susanoo should have similar properties to Itachi's Susanoo
 
Did you read what it says?
Yes, but why should he scale to the Totsuka blade? That makes no sense, each Susanoo is unique. That's like saying Itachi should have a crossbow like thing since Sasuke has it.
Shouldn't he still have both due to possessing the rinnegan and having limbo
This is for his EMS version.
I don't even know how they misunderstood stood it as Madara having the Totsuka Blade when all it says is that Madara's Susanoo should have similar properties to Itachi's Susanoo
But again, why? That assumption seems to be pulled out of thin air. The Totsuka Blade is specifically treated as a special thing that can be found, and isn't something inherent at all to the Susanoo. Him scaliing to the Yata Mirror isn't a thing, despite it being a similar case? Why shouldn't Madara's Susanoo also have reflecting all attacks with its shield/negating all properites of attacks?
 
You really dont seem to understand what the justification says.

It doesn't even say that Madara has the Totsuka Blade.

All it says is that the NPI of Madara's Susanoo scales to the NPI of Itachi's Susanoo
 
Yes, but why should he scale to the Totsuka blade? That makes no sense, each Susanoo is unique. That's like saying Itachi should have a crossbow like thing since Sasuke has it.

This is for his EMS version.

But again, why? That assumption seems to be pulled out of thin air. The Totsuka Blade is specifically treated as a special thing that can be found, and isn't something inherent at all to the Susanoo. Him scaliing to the Yata Mirror isn't a thing, despite it being a similar case? Why shouldn't Madara's Susanoo also have reflecting all attacks with its shield/negating all properites of attacks?
My bad
 
Itachi weapon is something he found and equipped. This is not an ability you get automatically or naturally from a susanoo. No reason at all for madara or any other susanoo users to scale
You also don't seem to understand.

Madara isn't getting the Abilities granted by the Totsuka Blade all he is getting is additional justification for NPI.

Now do you have any justification for Madara's Susanoo not to have NPI?
 
You also don't seem to understand.

Madara isn't getting the Abilities granted by the Totsuka Blade all he is getting is additional justification for NPI.

Now do you have any justification for Madara's Susanoo not to have NPI?
The fact npi comes from itachi having the totsuka blade a blade he did not gain from having the susanoo but something he found. It is not a natural ability itachi had so madara himself should not get it.
 
The fact npi comes from itachi having the totsuka blade a blade he did not gain from having the susanoo but something he found. It is not a natural ability itachi had so madara himself should not get it.
So show evidence that Madara and Itachi's Susanoo are different then
 
Never said it could. Itachi only has npi due to having the totsuka blade on him. A weapon he found. Madara does not have it so he should not get npi or ems should not have it
Itachi has NPI because he's able to wield Totsuku Blade, not because of Totsuka Blade.

If Itachi's Susanoo can hold an ethereal sword, so can all of them, there's no reason why they wouldn't be able to.
 
Disagree with OP for reasons stated above the scan shown on the page: https://gyazo.com/ae764d1ee06425ef948a3d211f1dedd2
Shows that the blade is non-physical the basics behind susanoo are similar so madara susanoo should be able to hold it to from what I’m seeing. Though it could be worded better tbh
 
How can this be worded better?

"Scales to Itachi's Susano'o that can wield Totsuka Blade, which doesn't have a physical form"
Remove “scales to” and replace with something along the lines of: is similar in nature with itachi’s susanoo which is capable of NPI, I say this because when people hear totsuka blade and NPI the first thing that’s going to come in mind is obviously the soul hax the totsuka blade can perform, it’s just confusing if your not aware of the basis behind it from the start
 
One can argue that nobody ever wields the “blade” of a sword, but the handle therefore requiring proof that the handle AND the blade qualifies for NPI
 
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