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Chakra and souls have been intertwined closely in the Narutoverse. It's come to the point where you would think chakra and souls are the same.
I have a few examples I'm thinking of in the verse, and a friend of mine suggested limited soul manipulation
I request that this thread have nothing to do with this topic for reasons such as
Spirit = Soul. That should be easy enough.
This is backed up by Tayuya's technique, Revolt of the Demon World
Things we know.
We see that Orochimaru, after getting his chakra back from Kabuto, all of his intel was transferred into Orochimaru as well.
Orochimaru, after getting his hands sealed, was unable to use hand seals. It was at the point where he was injured just because of the loss of his hands' soul. He almost died as well.
He thought Tsunade's medical ninjutsu could heal his hands. Medical ninjutsu is flat out just applying chakra on the target (search Mystical Palm Technique), so if chakra can restore a missing part of the soul, that says a lot.
Mei Terumi: Madara's chakra, which had started to separate from his body, is now clinging firmly to it.
We know these are souls because Dan flat out confirms that they're souls.
It says that it affects the soul of a victim as well (databook), more evidence.
Even Dan can't go through a pure chakra barrier when he turns into a ghost.
Non-Physical Interaction and Soul Manipulation should be given to those who manifest their chakra, like Jinchuriki, Rinnegan users, and Susanoo users.
Anybody else that gets it is decided on by those stated in the comments.
2 Agree With NPI but Disagree with Soul Manipulation: UchihaSlayer96, Purgy,
0 Agree With Soul Manipulation but Disagree with NPI:
0 Disagree:
5 Inconclusive: BlastX, OneBleachHurricane, Damage3245 (Staff), Elizhaa (Staff)
Chakra and souls have been intertwined closely in the Narutoverse. It's come to the point where you would think chakra and souls are the same.
I have a few examples I'm thinking of in the verse, and a friend of mine suggested limited soul manipulation
What I Will Not Do
I won't discuss Minato's connection with Truth-Seeking Orbs.I request that this thread have nothing to do with this topic for reasons such as
- Against the Discussion Rules.
- IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 has already had a good explanation of it on this thread.
- Extremely played out.
- This has been going on for at least 2 years now since the last thread that was linked on the Discussion Rules.
- It's obvious that even the staff are sick and tired of arguing about it.
- The argument would be much stronger if a played out point isn't brought back up.
What We Know About Chakra
Chakra is the combination of Physical Energy and Spiritual Energy.Spirit = Soul. That should be easy enough.
This is backed up by Tayuya's technique, Revolt of the Demon World
Which is shown to be intangible (goes through a tree here) and stated in manga to be mostly made out of spiritual energy.
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
The Dead Demon Consuming Seal is a sealing jutsu created to seal and manipulate souls. Uses of the jutsu:- Sealed the soulsof Hashirama and Tobirama.
- As that happened, the jutsu that was initiated by Hashirama was cancelled.
- Sealed the soul of the hands of Orochimaru.
- Sealed one half of Kurama into Naruto and into Minato.
Things we know.
- Kurama is a bijuu. The bijuu are purelychakra.
- Well, Bijuu have bled on occassions, so we can safely say that Hagoromo gave them physical form.
- Kurama was stated to have gotten smallerafter his soul was split in half.
- We visibly see the soul of Kurama being ripped out of him as that's happening.
- A chakra monster gets smaller as his soul is ripped in half.
- That explains why the horn and tails that are cut off of the Gyuki aren't regrown, since you can't regrow souls.
- We see Minato's and Kurama's souls linked together.
- It's stated that the souls of the user and the caster will battle forever.
- Which explains why Minato was able to get Nine-Tails Chakra Mode, which is gained by taking the chakra of Kurama.
- It's stated that the souls of the user and the caster will battle forever.
Hagoromo and Obito's Return
Hagoromo was able to return to the place of the living because his chakra was reunited.- Hagoromo is clearly dead, but he says that he has wandered throughout the world as chakra(he flat out says that he's dead).
- He says that Naruto summoned his soul, so it's confirmation that Hagoromo as of that point is a soul.
- He is a soul that wanders as chakra, hmm...
- His soul gave Naruto and Sasuke chakra, and was weakened after that.
- When they sealed Kaguya, he got his chakra back.
- He says that his son, Ashura, reincarnated into Naruto.
- Reincarnation Definition
- The belief that the soul, upon death of the body, comes back to earth in another body or form.
- Rebirth of the soul in a new body.
- A new incarnation or embodiment, as of a person.
- Hagoromo says he sees his chakra clinging onto Naruto.
- Reincarnation Definition
- Obito states that Chakra is an energy that connects two worlds.
- Obito is dead. What worlds could he mean? Maybe the otherworld (where dead people go) and the real world.
- Hagoromo says that Obito and him will talk in the afterworld. I know this isn't really super important, but it's self explanatory.
- Obito is dead. What worlds could he mean? Maybe the otherworld (where dead people go) and the real world.
- Obito's soul reappears and possesses Kakashi.
- As that happened, Kakashi got his Mangekyos and his Six Paths chakra.
- When he left, what came with Obito left with Obito.
Asura Path and Orochimaru, then some Chakra Arm, Similarities
The Asura Path rips out the soul of people to gain information. We know now that souls have something to do with knowledge.We see that Orochimaru, after getting his chakra back from Kabuto, all of his intel was transferred into Orochimaru as well.
- The soul is connected with intelligence.
- Chakra is connected with intelligence.
- Naruto calls his soul his life force. We know about Uzumaki's life forces and such.
Orochimaru, after getting his hands sealed, was unable to use hand seals. It was at the point where he was injured just because of the loss of his hands' soul. He almost died as well.
He thought Tsunade's medical ninjutsu could heal his hands. Medical ninjutsu is flat out just applying chakra on the target (search Mystical Palm Technique), so if chakra can restore a missing part of the soul, that says a lot.
Susanoo
Itachi's Susanoo can also hold the Sword of Totsuka, which has no physical form, also the Yata mirror, which has no physical form, since they are Spirit Weapons.Spirit Transformation Technique and Edo Tensei
Madara's Body: Soul starts to leave, but it goes right back into Madara's body.Mei Terumi: Madara's chakra, which had started to separate from his body, is now clinging firmly to it.
We know these are souls because Dan flat out confirms that they're souls.
- Dan: Souls ascending after being released from the Edo Tensei can be controlled with this Jutsu too.
- Exhibit A.
- Exhibit B.
- Exhibit C (communicates with the soul).
- Exhibit D.
- Exhibit E.
It says that it affects the soul of a victim as well (databook), more evidence.
Even Dan can't go through a pure chakra barrier when he turns into a ghost.
In Conclusion
Chakra has god knows how much to do with the soul.Non-Physical Interaction and Soul Manipulation should be given to those who manifest their chakra, like Jinchuriki, Rinnegan users, and Susanoo users.
Anybody else that gets it is decided on by those stated in the comments.
Results
8 Agree: Rocker1189, M3X, TheFinalOrder, Shadyboi0, 00potato, Shadowbokunohero (Staff), The_Alxhemist, Jvando (Staff), DarkDragonMedeus (Staff)2 Agree With NPI but Disagree with Soul Manipulation: UchihaSlayer96, Purgy,
0 Agree With Soul Manipulation but Disagree with NPI:
0 Disagree:
5 Inconclusive: BlastX, OneBleachHurricane, Damage3245 (Staff), Elizhaa (Staff)
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position, and we see Naruto's soul connected to his body like a wet noodle. Naruto's soul is hanging there and nothing is connected to the other side.
