Eggman Upgrade

[Bobsican]

Dr. Robotnik can take hits from his own machine, which can harm Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, etc.

Eggman should thus at least have Low 6-B durability in base via scaling.

 

[MYHERO]

Gameplay mechanics

 

[ShakeResounding]

I'm gonna play neutral here, but I think the only thing to argue against it is it being game mechanics.

 

[MYHERO]

I'm not sure either. It could be legit but at the same time we do not list Eggman's physical speed as FTL because he outpaced Sonic in Sonic 2.

 

[MYHERO]

I'm remaining neutral as well.

 

[Bobsican]

I don´t think it´s game mechanics, this isn´t like Arceus being one shotted by a Rattata via the FEAR trick, but an actual event that happened (as it can´t be skipped) to progress the game, meaning that it simply isn´t game mechanics.

 

[ShakeResounding]

@Bob Fair and good point, but HERO also has a fair point here. If others agree then you have my support as well, but I think I'm still unsure as of now.

 

[Bobsican]

I'm not sure either. It could be legit but at the same time we do not list Eggman's physical speed as FTL because he outpaced Sonic in Sonic 2.

Eggman would be Sub Relativistic via scaling to Classic Sonic. Only FTL if we take into account Sonic 4 (but we all know Sonic simply prefers to wait for him to be ready, so this one doesn´t really matters).

Unlike those scenarios, here we straight up see Eggman having to be smacked by his own machine, and as I already said for the before-mentioned reasons, it isn´t game mechanics.

 

[MYHERO]

Isn't Eggman only superhuman in his physical key?

 

[Bobsican]

Isn't Eggman only superhuman in his physical key?

You mean speed? If so, yes, or at least the profile says so.

Why do you ask?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Speed upgrade?

 

[MYHERO]

Then Eggman doesn't scale to Sonic physically, proving that we don't accept things like this here.

 

[Bobsican]

Speed and Durability are separate ratings, then again, so him being still at that speed is fine, the durability is the one that should be upgraded at least.

 

[Insecurity97]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that this seems to make sense, if it was an actual cutscene event, and not simply game mechanics.

However, it is probably good if you ask Dark649 to comment here.

 

[ShakeResounding]

I just contacted him, he should be here soon.

 

[Dark649]

One instance is not enough for un upgrade, if there are others where he took Low 6-B attacks then i might agree.

 

[Bobsican]

I mean, Sonic is Low 6-B via a single feat as far I know.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Honestly, this seems like gameplay mechanics, as Eggman is canonically physically frail in comparison to Sonic and friends and has to rely on machines to contend with them.

 

[Bobsican]

Maybe Low 6-B with the suit he was wearing in that case?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Nah. That was just a scuba outfit he was using to maneuver through the water, not something that would make him vastly more durable.

 

[Bobsican]

I guess it falls as an outlier in that case?

He also has a feat of tanking Charmy´s sting in Sonic Heroes now that I remember...

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

This and the Charmy feat should both be considred PIS.

 

[Bobsican]

Let´s see what other users think just in case.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, if Dark649 has rejected this as an outlier, we should probably close this thread.

 

[Bobsican]

One instance is not enough for un upgrade, if there are others where he took Low 6-B attacks then i might agree.

Well, I just pointed out that he had another feat in those lines.

Whether or not it falls as an outlier is surely pending a bit more discussion.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Have to agree with Maverick and Dark on it being an outlier/gameplay mechanics.