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speed equal
who wins?
Jiren is at casual base
who wins?
Jiren is at casual base
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Eclipsa vs Jiren (again)
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The Old Thread keeps talking about Jiren's glare. How does it work?
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He glares at something and that thing gets wrecked. Be it a Spirit Bomb or a person, doesn't matter.
Seriously.
That's it.
It even works on people his level (Ultra Instinct Goku, SSB Kaiokenx20 Goku and Royal Blue Vegeta). Without UI, Goku could've never seen the attack and this attack wrecked both Goku and Vegeta otherwise.
We don't even know if it's really a Ki attack since Goku never even tried using Ki Detection to try and dodge it; mostly because he couldn't really since it's literally just a "I look at you, you're hit" attack that doesn't need any hand movements of anything to perform.
Seriously.
That's it.
It even works on people his level (Ultra Instinct Goku, SSB Kaiokenx20 Goku and Royal Blue Vegeta). Without UI, Goku could've never seen the attack and this attack wrecked both Goku and Vegeta otherwise.
We don't even know if it's really a Ki attack since Goku never even tried using Ki Detection to try and dodge it; mostly because he couldn't really since it's literally just a "I look at you, you're hit" attack that doesn't need any hand movements of anything to perform.
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Speed equalization
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Eclipsa can counter glare with one of her spells.
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How is she going to see it comingInksaness said:
Besides, due to Eclipsa's physical stats, she's gonna die even from getting close to Jiren
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Her spells requires her to... actually cast it.
Jiren literally needs to look at her hard enough and she pops like a balloon.
Also yeah, Jiren's mere presence was causing Goku to poop himself despite being Low 2-C himself at the time. And this is Limit Breaker Jiren, a jiren stronger than 100% Jiren.
Jiren literally needs to look at her hard enough and she pops like a balloon.
Also yeah, Jiren's mere presence was causing Goku to poop himself despite being Low 2-C himself at the time. And this is Limit Breaker Jiren, a jiren stronger than 100% Jiren.
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this is base jirenAkreious said:
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what does he use thogh?GyroNutz said:
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Uhhh.GyroNutz said:
Really?
He's pretty spammy with it. The only reason why he never uses it more against Goku or Vegeta is because he downright says he respects them as warriors and fighters later on.
Hit was annoying to deal with since he had Timeskip and Timecage, which Jiren immediately glared after the latter.
So I'd say he's pretty good. Especially since this is a willing to kill match with no "No Killing" rule applied.
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Yes really. Legit none of those glares were a leading move, except maybe the glare he used vs Android 17's energy blast, but that wasn't even used offensively. If anything, that proves that he won't lead with glare.Akreious said:
First thing is headcanon; he doesn't use it any less frequently when he started to respect Goku and Vegeta than when he didn't care about them. None of those reasons show why Jiren would lead with glare.
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Eclipsa as shown in her fight with Meteora leads with energy blasts, then Dark Velvet inferno which from what's implied would of erased Meteora from existence but she was just aged down, either one would incapcitate Jiren(assuming he doesn't glare immedieatly after).
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he uses glare defensibly so...SansTheSkeleton101 said:
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Has his glare shown to take down age manipulation?
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SansTheSkeleton101 said:
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Dark Velvet puts him in a sphere and isn't a blast of energy.
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You said he can glare away projectiles, where has he shown to do that to sphere type attacks? Also have we even reached a conclusion on whether or not Jiren's strength is stronger then Eclipsa's magic? Cause if it is this thread should be closed purely due to being a stomp.
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Ki blassts are listed under energy projection, I don't see how trapping him in a sphere is a beam/projectile attack.
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No I think it's originally meant to erase Meteora from existence but it ended up de-aging her infant.
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That's necro.
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sorry that this is necro
but Jiren AP stomps cause he's WAAAAY above baseline while Eclipsa is just above baseline. He can just glare through projectiles and shields and whatnot
plus he starts with glare, which is instant gg
but Jiren AP stomps cause he's WAAAAY above baseline while Eclipsa is just above baseline. He can just glare through projectiles and shields and whatnot
plus he starts with glare, which is instant gg
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When has he glared away shields and EE/de-aging spheres?
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1. I never said he could glare away shields, but obviousl he would be able to glare/break THROUGH much weaker shields, right? and 2. he glared away the Spirit Bomb, so I don't see why it can't glare away other projectiles. Then again, I have no idea about how the Age Spheres or whatever you call them work, so don't quote me on that one.GiverOfThePeace said:
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Spirit Bomb isn't a shield, a shield isn't a projectile.
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A Shield is in function no different from a Projectile. It's just that one is formed to be static and defend and the other moves and explodes or something. The result is the same; both is a physical thing that either impedes or damages a thing. A Shield to a Bullet is no different from A Bullet to a Bullet (If they meet mid-air somehow).GiverOfThePeace said:
EE/De-Aging Spheres definitely sounds like it's a projectile and can be activated pre-maturely by Jiren... glaring. You'll have to prove that these Spheres ignore other projectiles or physical objects, and I sincerely doubt that.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shield
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/projectile
Idk where you're getting your info from but that's objectively false. A shield to a bullet is stupidly different from a bullet to a bullet.
It's not a projectile as explained. The very basis of what a shield is supposed to do goes against your claims.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/projectile
Idk where you're getting your info from but that's objectively false. A shield to a bullet is stupidly different from a bullet to a bullet.
It's not a projectile as explained. The very basis of what a shield is supposed to do goes against your claims.
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