Dreamworks Death Downgrade

[LightSoul8]

Fairly simple change here: Death should not have AE and Type 8 Immortality. Currently, his justifications are, to directly quote his profile: "Immortality (Type 1 and 8; Is the physical embodiment of death itself[1]), likely Abstract Existence (Type 2; Is the physical embodiment of the concept of death[1])"

This has a couple of problems. The page for Abstract Existence states the following: "Embodying a concept is not enough to obtain this ability, an abstract needs feats or reliable statements proving that the concept they represent grants them Immortality/Regeneration or control over the abstraction." and "Type 2: Embodies an abstraction, and can be resurrected or regenerate indefinitely thanks to it."

As such, in order for Death to qualify he would need Resurrection, Regeneration, and/or Death Manipulation. Thing is, Death has none of these on his profile. Additionally, if the reason that Death has AE is because Death has Type 8 Immortality and the reason he has Type 8 Immortality is because he has AE, then that creates a circular argument. The only remotely similar thing Death has is Type 1 Immortality, but that isn't good enough to qualify because that doesn't affect how Death can negate being killed. Mind you, I'm not arguing that Death isn't the concept of death itself, just that him being death doesn't grant him any abilities on its own.


Agree (6): @Maverick_Zero_X, @Thelastmlg, @DarkDragonMedeus, @DaReaperMan, @Dark_Soul20189, @The_golden_and_silver_house94

Disagree:

Neutral:

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

This is technically correct.

 

[Thelastmlg]

yeah i tried removing those back then in his CRT, but nothing happened, yeah he should not have those, his nature as death is vague and we have no idea what control or connection he has to it besides being the grim reaper and knowning where others are or when they die

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks alright.

 

[LightSoul8]

Now that there are two staff agreements, do I still need seven total agreements? I'd assume so, but I figured I should ask just in case

 

[HammerStrikes219]

Now that there are two staff agreements, do I still need seven total agreements? I'd assume so, but I figured I should ask just in case

Nah, you just need staff agreement so this should been fine

 

[DaReaperMan]

I argued this for quite awhile when the movie came out. I am glad that the wiki will be seeing it my way.

 

[Thelastmlg]

i think we contested those things back when it was attempted to scale death to star level due to one of the guys in the show lol

 

[LightSoul8]

i think we contested those things back when it was attempted to scale death to star leve

When it was attempted to scale Death to WHAT

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Looks good to me.

 

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

Agree
totally makes sense

 

[LightSoul8]

24 hours have passed and this can be applied. I'll do just that.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

When it was attempted to scale Death to WHAT

Death (Puss in Boots 2) at least 5-B, possibly 4-C

In the animated series about Puss in Boots, there are characters who are able to survive the explosion of the planet and literally a living star. Artephius, a very powerful mage at the peak of his powers, was able to easily survive the explosion of an entire planet with his magic. Esteban is...

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