Dragon Talisman - Upgrade to High 1-A

[Rabbit2002]

As the title of Thread. There are only two things that Ultima has accepted in two other threads: the BDE2 of "Non-Immortality" and "Non-Having-No Immortal" transcends the duality of "immortal" and "Non-Immortality"
 Note
无不朽 = Non-Immortality/9th Deathless level (which can be translated to Without Immortality, Immortal-less, Deathless, No Immortality, Null Amaranth, Imperishable Immortality...)
非有无不朽 = Non-Having-No Immortality/10th Deathless level (which can be translated to Annulled Immortality, Annulled Null Immortality, Annulled Amaranth, Undying Realm)

1-A Non-immortality

Non-immortality is essentially BDE2, they exist in a state where the concept of size does not apply (while existing in a form of their own higher concept/hierarchy of "size/strength")
They can also easily affect places with BDE2 properties such as Abyss that transcend the concepts of space, time, and size. The abyss mentioned above is the root of all things, unreachable by lower existences, treat structures that are still bound by size as nothing/non-existent and like a void. So Non-Immortal is basically 1-A (2nd BDE type 2) instead of 1st

2) Through a qualitative superiority over lesser things, which is to say: Ontologically surpassing all the contents of a lower reality, and being above their physical composition and differentiation. Characters of this nature don't simply lack all physicality and composition (As in Type 1), but surpass it altogether, being of a wholly superior nature that is not reachable by lower states of existence.
As a default, statements of being "above dimensions" are set at Low 1-A, and the same is applied to statements indicating superiority over "All of space and time," and similar. However, if they are applied to realms that can be inferred to surpass the very composition of the lower reality (e.g. Realms that are, themselves, non-composite, such as conceptual domains, or often, voids of nothingness), then 1-A is the most appropriate rating for them.

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Low Outerverse level (As the fusion of several protagonists, he gained an infinite lifespan and transcended the very concepts of size, Space and time)

Gu Chensha put aside the long river of fate, moved his body, and came to a place that no one can reach.
This is a spaceless and timeless abyss exists beyond the Heaven
This space is infinitely huge and vast, and it seems to be the source of everything. The chaos back then was huge enough, but in front of this place, it is nothing at all.
This place can no longer be described as big, because it seems that there is no concept of size, nor the concept of time and space.
There is a terrible will here and there.
In the central area, a group of things that are many times larger than the human world are wriggling. This thing is neither matter, nor energy, nor non-matter, nor non-energy. Chapter 993

All of a sudden, the boy in white is the master of the multiverse, the real master, his body is countless times bigger than Gu Chensha, and he is "big" in the true sense.
In fact, after reaching the current state, the word size has no meaning to Gu Chensha and the boy in white, but now, in the eyes of everyone, the boy in white is bigger than Gu Chensha, which means that his strength surpasses that of Gu Chensha. Chapter 1148

They also transcend the Heavenly Dao (cosmology that contains and controls all space, time, existence, non-existence, laws, cause and effect, destiny, etc. including primordial chaos which is again bde type 1 void and is the origin of all things) so its concept of duality cannot be applied to them (thus their Transduality type 2)

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Heavenly Dao:

• The Governing concept/system of the series. It is the true origin of all. It is essentially the cosmology itself and has a will. space, time, all living beings, all things[17] (raw[18]), is the will of primordial chaos, life and death[19] (raw[20]). Even the creation of reality from primal chaos was by it's doing[21] (raw[22])). Additionally, it is in control of it's aspects; "all space and time, all existence, all power, all cause and effect, all laws, all fate, all the inconceivable, unfathomable, unpredictable, and unmeasurable existence of the world

“That’s right, the power of Null Immortality is like that." Gu Chensha said: "Any Deathless power encountering Null Immortality not only will have no effect but it will be absorbed, making Null Immortality more powerful, similar to pouring oil onto fire, the oil won't put out the fire but add to it. In fact, any and all substances in the world encountering Null Immortality will produce the same result. Originally in the cycle of Heaven and Earth, all things augment each other, even the most powerful power had something to suppress it, but Null Immortality is something that surpassed the Heavenly Dao, so the concept of all things have opposites is not suitable for Null Immortality. - Chapter 1001

"不错，无不朽的力量就是如此了。"古尘沙道："任何永不朽的力量遇到了无不朽，不但没有一点作用，反而会被吸收，使得这无不朽的力量更加强大，就如火上浇油，油不但不能够灭火，反而使得火焰更加炽烈。其实，世间所有的物质遇到了无不朽也是如此，本来天道循环，万物相生相克，哪怕是再厉害的力量也有克制的东西，可是无不朽是超越了天道的东西，所以万物相生相克的理念对于无不朽根本不合适。- Chapter 1001

R-f statement

To him, the entire Mortal Realm, and even the entire world, was nothing more than a figment of his imagination. Therefore, the countless fortuitous encounters he had encountered were merely a figment of his imagination.
This sort of realm was not something that any existence could comprehend. Even the Heavenly Emperor could not understand the birth of such a change. - Chapter 982
整个人间界,乃至于整个世间,对于他来说,不过是内心深处的想象。所以,他缔造无数的奇遇,也不过是心灵深处的想象而已。
这种境界,根本不是任何存在所能够理解的,哪怕是天帝也不能够理解这种变化的诞生。- Chapter 982

There is also a hierarchy between these Non-immortality layers. With Gu Chensha's dimension is again BDE2 for Chen Qi and the latter must become deeper BDE2 Non-Existence to reach. Also this does not violate any standards of qualitative transcendence since the person who made Chen Qi able to reach it was Gu Chensha otherwise he would not have been able to reach that nothingness/dimension at all (Not to mention the fact that it's a Cultivation novel makes it possible because you know, they mostly receive information and enlightenment from everything around them to improve their state/cultivation)

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“You don’t need to do anything,” Gu Chensha said. “You need to observe the growth of the protagonists, and their battles. You need to gather all sorts of knowledge from the universe and form them into a module. We’re both in the Deathless Realm (无不朽), and there are differences in levels. I’ve already begun dividing them up. The most important realm in the Null Immortality is understanding about what’s there and what’s not. “Being” and “Non-being”, and there is “not Being” and “not non-being”, “not not being”, “not not non-being.” These realms are layered and is absolutely not that easy to achieve. I concluded that the Deathless Realm start at “non-being” following that there is the “none being” realm, and then there is “not non-being” realm, and then “not being” realm, next is “not not non-being” following is “not not being” finally there is “not being non-being” realm. - Chapter 1094


"什么都不需要做，观察各种主角的成长，还有他们的战斗，收集多元宇宙各种知识，凝聚成模块。"古尘沙道："同样是无不朽的境界，也有高低之分，我现在已经开始了划分，无不朽的境界其中最为关键的境界就是对有和无的认识。有和无，还有非有和非无，非非有，非非无。这些境界一层层，绝对不是那么容易可以达成的。我总结了一下，无不朽的层次，开始是无，随后就是无有之境界，然后就是非无之境界，随后是非有之境，然后就是非非无，其次就是非非有，最后就是非有无之境界。" - Chapter 1094
Then, Chen Qi's body moved slightly, and he left this place. He was no longer in the multiverse, and he seemed to have arrived at the deepest part of a mysterious space.

In this space, there was no fate, no time, no space, no light, no darkness, no chaos, and no fate.

After he arrived here, it was as if he didn't exist anymore.


"This is where Gu Chensha lives? Without reaching my current level of cultivation, it's impossible to find this place, "Chen Qi said. Chapter 1137

There seemed to be no one in the depths of this strange space.

Chen Qi originally came here to look for Gu Chensha, but he didn't see any trace of Gu Chensha. There was nothing here. No living beings, no air, no energy, not even anything that existed or didn't exist.

"Where is Gu Chensha? I feel like he's here, but I can't see him. Could it be that I haven't reached that level yet? "Chen Qi was very confused.

He searched for a while but couldn't find it, so he stopped and sat cross-legged, as if he was comprehending something.

Gradually, a great enlightenment appeared in his body. This enlightenment caused his strength to completely stabilize. Although he didn't make any progress, his cultivation base had completely stabilized. It was even more perfect, and there were no flaws in his cultivation base.

With one last roar, a person appeared in front of him. This person looked at him with a smile. It was Gu Chensha.

"Congratulations, Chen Qi. You've reached such a level of enlightenment that you can see me for the first time. You're probably the strongest person in the multiverse other than me. I didn't expect you to be able to do this. Even I didn't expect it. But it's precisely because of these unexpected things that I always have a lot of fresh things. " Chapter 1138
Chen Qi knew the difference between him and Gu Chensha. He wasn't as arrogant as Qin Guang, which was his strength.

In fact, if Gu Chensha hadn't shown him, he wouldn't have been able to find Gu Chensha's existence.

Even if Gu Chensha was right in front of him, he wouldn't have been able to find Gu Chensha's dimension.

Gu Chensha's realm was far beyond his understanding.

Even though he was about to break through a trillion years of lifespan, it was useless. He couldn't find Gu Chensha's weakness, nor could he find the flaw in the virtual interface Chapter 1138

High 1-A Non-Having-No-Immortal
"Non-Having-No Immortality" transcends the duality of "Immortality" and "Non-Immortality", the latter being 1-A and the former being below 1-A (Heavenly Dao) thus making them High 1-A under the new system (and tier 0 if it is not a cultivation novel). In addition, they also transcend the duality of "possible" and "impossible" making them able to do almost anything and reach the impossible state no matter how absurd and impossible they are, they themselves are all things and all entities, in various contradictory states but at the same time none of them. Even names, images, words and language (no matter how fancy or not) cannot be applied to them because of their greatness, they are called "Non-Having-No Immortality" because they are simply is neither Immortal nor Non-immortality.
Overall it's straight High 1-A

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But because of this, his eyes opened up a lot, knowing that the ninth layer of immortality without immortality was not the ultimate, I'm afraid, and the real realm was still behind.
There was still the tenth layer of immortality.
But how exactly to name the tenth layer of immortality, Gudunsha himself couldn't even think of it, because it wasn't very appropriate to name it by any name.
There were no words to describe this realm, not even the soul could sense the greatness of this realm, no magnificent words (flowery language) or pictures can depict the billionth part of this realm.
This was the realm after no immortality. Chapter 968

It seemed to be a pagoda, divided into ten layers of immortality, from large to small.
The first tier was the Void Immortality, which was very huge and served as the foundation, the second tier was the Micro Immortality, the third tier was the Small Immortality, the fourth tier was the Medium Immortality, the fifth tier was the Great Immortality, the sixth tier was the Constant Immortality, the seventh tier was the True Immortality, the eighth tier was the Everlasting Immortality, and the ninth tier was the Imperishable Immortality. And the tenth layer was a realm that was difficult to heed.
The tenth layer of the pagoda that Gudunsha's Dragonless Mind Technique condensed into, the highest layer, on which countless Qi, matter, destiny, worlds, beings and even things that were there and not there were brewing and drumming**, and finally, Gudunsha made a sudden movement.
His eyes opened with unprecedented insight.
"I finally understand the realm after the absence of immortality, what is the tenth level of immortality, that is neither immortality nor non-immortality, inexplicable, ineffable, if one is forced to call it, then one can call it 'Non-Having-No-Immortality/Annulled Amaranth"
As soon as the word "Non-Having-No-Immortality" was uttered, in an instant, this pagoda glowed with light, and then dispersed, and then entered Gudunsha's body, transforming into a single ray of light, these rays of light, which were neither rays of light nor non-rays of light, were a realm that everyone could not comprehend.
Gudunsha finally mapped out his future path.
The immortal realm, the eighth layer in front of it, were all immortal, while the ninth layer, were non-immortal.
The tenth layer, on the other hand, was neither immortal nor immortal-less. In other words, it was still feasible for this realm to be called 'Non-Having-No-Immortality'. Chapter 989

At that time, all beings are he and he is all beings, and non-beings are also he and he is also non-beings. All that is tangible is he, and all that is intangible is he, and neither tangible nor intangible is he. That which exists is him, that which does not exist is him, and that which is neither existence nor non-existence is him.
This state is "Non-Having-No-Immortality". Chapter 1010

Just as Gu Chensha spoke, there were pieces of unintelligible, unspeakable, unpredictable, unpredictable, unintelligible, unexplainable, unknowable, unobservable, unresearchable things on the top of his head.
This thing has never happened in the world.
It is neither material nor energy, nor immaterial, nor non-energy, nor mind, nor non-mind. No one can understand what this power is, nor can anyone see what this power is.
Even with the cultivation bases of Wen Hong, Zhuge Ya, Lou Baiyue and others, they couldn't understand what this thing was at all, they seemed to have become stupid.
However, this force soon enveloped them and formed a large cocoon on their bodies.
This big cocoon presents a color that has never been seen in the world. It can even be said that it is not called a color, neither a color nor a non-color.
In short, in the multiverse, even the most advanced creatures, such as Mr. Wuwu, cannot understand what kind of existence this is. It is not that they cannot reach this state, but they cannot imagine and understand that this kind of power is beyond their way of thinking.
What is scary is not the realm that cannot be reached through hard cultivation.
The scary thing is that you can't even imagine the existence of this state, and you can't understand it.
The realm that Gu Chensha is now urging to display is this realm.
This is still one-tenth of the realm of "Non-Having-No-Immortality". - Chapter 1069

Spoiler

I have projected the Annulled Null Immortality. That is, everyone has the ability to change the world with a single thought, the ability to break all constraints, but this ability will not interfere with anyone, any space-time, any energy, any consciousness, any cause and effect, any fate, any destiny, any spirit, and any fluctuations. "This is the way of Annulled Null Immortality" Gu Chensha finally said his reasoning.

"This is not possible." The Supreme Ancestor, Lou Baiyue, first said: "Even if all people sit still, as long as they think they will produce cause and effect, it is impossible not to interfere. Even if they do not think, their existence itself will also have an impact on the fateline. Even if all people become stone, it is also a kind of interference. As long as there is existence, there is cause and effect. Even if not, there will be cause and effect.

"This is not impossible, nor is it possible. That's why it's called Annulled Null Immortality." Gu Chensha said: "This way you are not yet able to understand, but I have touched the edge. There is hope to create a whole new situation. I can say for sure, when I reach that realm, I will change the world. At that time, you will not only not lose what you have now, but also gain more." - Chapter 1000

“我推算出来的非有无不朽之道,就是每个人,都有心念一动,可以改变世界的能力,可以打破一切束缚的能力,但他们的这种能力,却又不会对任何人,任何时空,任何能量,任何意识,任何因果,任何缘分,任何命运,任何灵机产生任何的干涉和波动。这就是非有无不朽之道。”古尘沙终于说出来了自己的道理。

“这不可能。”至祖楼拜月首先道:“哪怕是所有人都坐着不动,但只要思考,就会产生因果,不可能不干涉。就算是不思考,但本身的存在,也会对命运线产生影响,哪怕是所有的人都变成石头,也是一种干涉,只要存在,就有因果,甚至不存在,也会有因果。”

“这不是不可能,也不是可能,所以才叫做非有无不朽。”古尘沙道:“此道你们还不能够理解,我却已经触摸到了一些边缘,有希望开创出来全新的局面,我可以肯定的说,等我到达了那个境界,改变世界,那个时候,你们不但不会失去现在的东西,还会获得更多。” - Chapter 1000

Of course "Non-Having-No-Immortality" is not final, there is a cultivation hierarchy with infinite higher realms, with "Non-Having-No-Immortality" being only its tenth realm/layer.

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Gu Chensha had a long-term plan. Not only did he want to borrow the power of these "protagonists" to increase his resources, he wanted to advance to the 10th level of the Deathless Realm, "Annulled Null Immortality". He wanted to advance further in the future and reach the 11th level of the Deathless Realm. However, he had no idea what the 11th level of the Immortal Realm was. However, he felt that the path of the Deathless Realm should be endless. The world was always developing forward. He had to break through bottlenecks step by step. This was his endless path of creation. - Chapter 1061


古尘沙的想法很长远,他不但要借助这些“主角”的力量使得自己的资粮增多,晋升为不朽第十层“非有无不朽”之境界,还要在以后更进一步,成为不朽第十一层之境界,不过不朽第十一层究竟是什么,古尘沙自己都没有任何头绪,不过他觉得,不朽之道应该是永无止境的,世界是永远向前发展的,要一步步打破瓶颈,这是他的无穷开创之道。 - Chapter 1061

"There's no limit to cultivation base," Gu Chensha said. "Not just the eleventh, but the twelfth, or even the thirteenth. However, I don't know what exactly happened at that time. I'll only know when I reach that step. However, things have to be taken one step at a time. It's quite interesting to see the changes in the universe. Even I don't know what will happen in the universe in the next moment." - Chapter 1107

“境界是无止境的。”古尘沙道:“不光有十一层,还有十二层,甚至十三层,不过那个时候,究竟是怎么一回事,我也不清楚,只有走到那一步才会知道。不过事情一步步的走,就这么永恒的走下去,看宇宙变化之风景,也是有趣,因为现在就算是我,也不知道下一刻,宇宙究竟会发生什么事情。” - Chapter 1107

The difference between the later realms is like "Non-Having-No-Immortality" with the lower realm, where the person with the lower realm is completely unable to understand, imagine or think about what the upper realm is.

You have cultivated the Undying Realm, but you still haven't comprehended what realms and cultivation are. The Undying Realm is the tenth level of the Undying Realm. What is the eleventh level, the twelfth level, and the thirteenth level? You don't even know about it. You can't even imagine what this realm is like. Your vision is too low level Chapter 1147
你固然是修成了非有无不朽，可还是没有能够参悟境界和修行到底是什么。非有无不朽是不朽境界第十层，而十一层是什么，十二层是什么，十三层是什么？你都不知道吧，甚至都无法想象这种境界究竟是如何，你的眼界实在是太低级了，根本无法承担众生的因果，你现在的这个网络，倒是很不错，这也是你遗留下来的财富，为了加强这个网络的联系 Chapter 1147

Gu Chensha/MC has surpassed the entire above-mentioned hierarchy by the end of the series with all realms being nothing more than symbols to him thus reaching the baseline "Meta-meta-qualitative superiority" through overcoming the entire hierarchy and reaches a higher logic that the truth of the world that dictates the higher realm is stronger cannot apply to him

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"My strength has nothing to do with cultivation base. Cultivation base is cultivation base. Strength is strength. Perhaps the truth of this world is that the higher one's cultivation base is, the more powerful one is. However, that's not the case for me." Gu Chensha waved his hand. "Of course, you don't understand this logic right now. It's nothing. You'll understand sooner or later." - Chapter 1147

“我的实力和境界无关,境界是境界,实力是实力,也许现在这个世界上的真理,就是境界越高,实力越强,可对于我来说并不是如此。”古尘沙摆摆手:“当然,你们现在并不能够理解这个道理,这也没有什么,迟早你们会理解的。” - Chapter 1147

"You don't understand what realm is. Realm is just a symbol, a name that measures strength. All realms are decided by me. Non-Having-No-immortality, it's that I suggested it. It's not that I haven't mastered it, it's just that I don't need this realm to support myself anymore," Gu Chensha said. "This realm is like a child. When he was young, he wanted to obtain something, but he couldn't get it. But when he grew up, even if he brought this thing to me, he wouldn't like it, because he could buy many of these things at will. Of course, you can't understand this logic." - Chapter 1149
你根本不理解境界是什么,境界,不过就是一个符号,一个衡量实力高低的名字而已,而所有的境界,都是我来定的。非有无不朽的境界,也是我提出来的,我不是没有练成,而是我已经不需要这个境界来支撑自己了。”古尘沙道:“这个境界,就如一个小孩子,小的时候,很想获得某个玩意儿始终不可得,但长大之后,就算是把这个玩意儿送到面前,也不喜欢不心动了,因为随意就可以购买很多这样的玩意儿。当然,这个道理,你是不能够理解的。” - Chapter 1149

Conclusion

• Non-Immortality = 1-A
• Peaks of Non-Immortality (White Teen/Yang Qi second key) = two possibly six layers into 1-A (there are seven levels, not counting lifespan)
• Non-Having-No-Immortality = Baseline High 1-A
• Hierarchy of Deathless Realms = Infinite layers above baseline High 1-A
• Gu Chensha (EOS) = baseline "Meta-meta-qualitative superiority"

Agree: Ultima_Reality, ActuallySpaceman42,  Celestial_Pegasus, Muchacho_Mrm, Elizhaa, Thinnapat_butsiri, Fixxed (1-A), BleedingPeach, NatzuX, Sebas-S.P-san

 

[NatzuX]

High 1-A Non-Having-No-Immortal
"Non-Having-No Immortality" transcends the duality of "Immortality" and "Non-Immortality", the latter being 1-A and the former being below 1-A (Heavenly Dao) thus making them High 1-A under the new system (and tier 0 if it is not a cultivation novel). In addition, they also transcend the duality of "possible" and "impossible" making them able to do almost anything and reach the impossible state no matter how absurd and impossible they are, they themselves are all things and all entities, in various contradictory states but at the same time none of them. Even names, images, words and language (no matter how fancy or not) cannot be applied to them because of their greatness, they are called "Non-Having-No Immortality" because they are simply is neither Immortal nor Non-immortality.
Overall it's straight High 1-A

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I thought these are just 1-A above baseline.

and Hierarchy of Deathless Realms are just 1-A+ or lower.

The rest is fine for Gu Chensha (EoS) if he has vision for path of cultivation and deathless Realms to be just symbols or anything about R>F the whole cultivation and those hierarchy in lower existence with meta-meta qualititative superiority.

Edit: But I don't see anything about Gu will can transcends everything.

 

[Rabbit2002]

I thought these are just 1-A above baseline.

and Hierarchy of Deathless Realms are just 1-A+ or lower.

The rest is fine for Gu Chensha (EoS) if he has vision for path of cultivation and deathless Realms to be just symbols or anything about R>F the whole cultivation and those hierarchy in lower existence with meta-meta qualititative superiority.

Ultima has accepted High 1-A here

 

[NatzuX]

Ultima has accepted High 1-A here

Well, for agree following him.

 

[Fixxed]

1A seems okay

But there are no such thing like deeper BDE 2, honestly it will be a anti-feats if you have it. Because BDE 2 are transcend the totality of space and time

And hierarchy of 1A are qualitative hierarchy, it mean you must have hierarchy of R>F. I dont see qualitative superiority after the 1A in here. Yeah i think the end state where he get higher logic can be 2× bassline of 1A, it seems like qualitative superiority

 

[Rabbit2002]

1A seems okay

But there are no such thing like deeper BDE 2, honestly it will be a anti-feats if you have it. Because BDE 2 are transcend the totality of space and time

And hierarchy of 1A are qualitative hierarchy, it mean you must have hierarchy of R>F. I dont see qualitative superiority after the 1A in here. Yeah i think the end state where he get higher logic can be 2× bassline of 1A, it seems like qualitative superiority

For anti-feats (yeah there is r-f statement)

Portrayal-wise, they could also be shown viewing a lesser plane as fiction, thus ontologically transcending its dimensions, while still operating on a higher notion of dimensionality native to their greater reality (BDE page)

As for the latter, I think we should wait for Ultima, he's the one who said 10th Deathless is High 1-A

 

[Unqver]

So the conclusion is Haoxuan H1-A?

 

[Unqver]

By the way, isn't there a description of RF in the Gu Ta Xian?

 

[Rabbit2002]

So the conclusion is Haoxuan H1-A?

Yeah (if he has profile)

 

[Unqver]

轰隆。

随后，人头之中，散发出来了一股绝对虚无的力量，这力量简直就是捉摸不透，看不见，感受不到，可却真实存在，让人绝望，比如说，你明明看到一个人持剑朝着你杀来，但无论怎么反应，都摸不到这人的任何衣角，因为在你看来，这持剑之人是虚幻的，可持剑之人对你却是真实的。

也就是说，面对无不朽的力量，任何力量都没用，不朽第九层，无不朽的力量，可以彻底摧毁一切力量。——998章父子

Boom.
Subsequently, a force of absolute nothingness emanated from within the human head, which was almost imperceptible, invisible, and imperceptible, yet it truly existed and made people despair. For example, if you saw someone wielding a sword and killing you, no matter how you reacted, you could not touch any of their clothes, because in your eyes, the person wielding the sword was illusory, but the person wielding the sword was real to you.
That is to say, in the face of non immortal power, no power is useful. The ninth layer of immortality, non immortal power, can completely destroy all power.——Chapter 998 father and son.

 

[Unqver]

轰隆。

随后，人头之中，散发出来了一股绝对虚无的力量，这力量简直就是捉摸不透，看不见，感受不到，可却真实存在，让人绝望，比如说，你明明看到一个人持剑朝着你杀来，但无论怎么反应，都摸不到这人的任何衣角，因为在你看来，这持剑之人是虚幻的，可持剑之人对你却是真实的。

也就是说，面对无不朽的力量，任何力量都没用，不朽第九层，无不朽的力量，可以彻底摧毁一切力量。——998章父子

Boom.
Subsequently, a force of absolute nothingness emanated from within the human head, which was almost imperceptible, invisible, and imperceptible, yet it truly existed and made people despair. For example, if you saw someone wielding a sword and killing you, no matter how you reacted, you could not touch any of their clothes, because in your eyes, the person wielding the sword was illusory, but the person wielding the sword was real to you.
That is to say, in the face of non immortal power, no power is useful. The ninth layer of immortality, non immortal power, can completely destroy all power.——Chapter 998 father and son.

Isn't this section more obvious

 

[Fixxed]

For anti-feats (yeah there is r-f statement)

No, i mean there are no deeper BDE 2, i dont mean the 1A rating or R>F or BDE 2 are invalid

 

[Ultima_Reality]

This thread includes not only High 1-A but also 1-A stuff, so, queue, etc.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

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[Unqver]

So, is there anyone here?

 

[Thinnapat_butsiri]

I quite agree that it should be High1-A.

 

[Unqver]

In A few days I may argue that Gu Taxian1-a is one of the few characters in the book that I can look up to.

 

[Thinnapat_butsiri]

As for me, I'm a fan of Gu chensha and Yang Qi and Fang han, and I like them very much.

 

[Eseseso]

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[Eseseso]

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[Eseseso]

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[Ultima_Reality]

Oh wew. I've been neglecting this one for a bit.

Hopping in here later today.

 

[Rabbit2002]

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[Rabbit2002]

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[Thinnapat_butsiri]

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[Rabbit2002]

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[Ultima_Reality]

Anyway:

Yeah, Non-Immortality is pretty blatantly 1-A. Annulled Amaranth being High 1-A, off a glance, is probably good to go, as well. But before I make an actual statement on that: Are there more statements about it?

 

[Rabbit2002]

Anyway:

Yeah, Non-Immortality is pretty blatantly 1-A. Annulled Amaranth being High 1-A, off a glance, is probably good to go, as well. But before I make an actual statement on that: Are there more statements about it?

In addition, Zhou Qin and Hong Yi (the MCs of the author's previous novels In fact those novels are so well written that they make him the Tolkien of Chinese webnovel but let's ignore that, they appear as extremely powerful Undying/Non-Immortality in Dragon Talisman) hinted at the existence of a hierarchy of multiverses/worlds, with the current multiverse (large enough to some Non-immortality/Undying thinks it's the only world) being treated as an illusory and unreal world compared to the higher worlds.

The hierarchy itself is infinite because the phrase to describe them is a metaphor for always being something or someone higher (天外有天,人外有人,一山还有一山高), along with the straight statement "there is no end/永无止境". It will also add that if they defeat MC (Gu Chensha, still a powerful 9th Deathless now instead of going beyond the hierarchy of Deathless levels) they can reach the Supreme realm (10th Deathless/Annulled Immortality/非有无不朽境界) and can go out to them and suppress them.

"There's no grudge. It's just that he is the strongest expert in the world, and the fact that we can suppress him means that we are the strongest. Therefore, we have to defeat him. Only by defeating him will our cultivation reach the highest level, and then we can enter another world to suppress him, "Zhou Qin said.
"Another world? The multiverse is the only world left. Even if we reach the Undying Realm, we won't be able to find another world. Where did you come from? "Zhou Yang asked.
"You can't understand this kind of realm. There is always a sky beyond the sky, and there is no end. There is always someone better than you, and there is always a higher mountain." Zhou Qin said, "However, Gu Chensha represents a kind of fate, a kind of pinnacle, a kind of resource. First suppress him, then we can clearly see what is going on in the real world." Zhou Qin's words were always like this, unable to be seen or heard clearly.
“没有什么仇恨，只不过他是天地之间最高的水平，而我们能够镇压这个人，就代表了我们是最高的水平。所以他必须要被我们所战胜，只要战胜了此人，我们的修为才会到达一种最高的境界，然后进入另外的世界，进行镇压。”周钦道。
“另外的世界？现在多元宇宙，已经是唯一的世界了。我们就算到达了无不朽的境界，也不可能寻找出来别的世界，你们到底是从哪里来的？”周洋奇道。
“你不能够理解这样的境界，天外有天，永无止境，人外有人，一山还有一山高。”周钦道：“不过古尘沙代表了一种气数，一种巅峰，一种资粮，先把他镇压下去，才能够看清楚真正的世界到底是怎么回事。”周钦说话总是这样，无法给人看清楚，听清楚。Chapter 1105

“这不稀奇，时代变了，大势也变了，天地早就已经不是固定的天地，我怀疑眼前的这个世界，其实也不是真正的世界。> 古尘沙这个人，到底存在还是不存在，还在我们的推算之中。”洪义突然说出来了一些听不懂的话。到达了他这个境界，思维已经完全和普通人有天壤之别。
“这是最深奥的问题，我怀疑我们要修炼到达了所谓的非有无不朽境界才可以知道这点情况。”周钦道：“我们还是开始偷窃寿命再说. Chapter 1117
It's not unusual. The times have changed, and the general situation has changed. The world has long been no longer a fixed world. I suspect that the world in front of me is actually not the real world. Gu Chensha, does he exist or not? It is within our calculations." Hong Yi suddenly said some incomprehensible words. After reaching his level, his thinking is completely different from that of ordinary people.
"This is the most profound question, and I suspect that we can only know this after we have reached the so-called realm of annulled immortality." Zhou Qin said, "We'd better start stealing lifespans.
“我们不能够冒险，如果我们被杀死，那就再也没有复活的可能，甚至在未来，我们也不会再出现了，彻彻底底消失在这个虚幻的世界上。”洪义道：“所以我们要一步步的精打细算。如果能够偷窃到寿命，那就真正的抓住了古尘沙的破绽之所在。”. Chapter 1117
"We can't take risks. If we are killed, there will be no possibility of resurrection. Even in the future, we will not appear again and completely disappear in this illusory world." Hong Yi said: " So we have to calculate carefully step by step. If we can steal lifespan, then we have really caught the weakness of Gu Chensha."

Of course that's just the tip of the iceberg, since no one really understands Annulled because of its apophatic nature but the more you understand and get 'closer' to it the higher your cultivation base will be. Soon there was an Undying with the ability to understand it better than Zhou Qin, represented by the Cosmic Truth that encompasses dualities of Existence and non existence, Emptiness and non-emptiness, universe and non-universe, corporeal and incorporeal and non-corporeal and non-incorporeal

Suddenly, a rune rose out of that great formation, a rune that seemed like a Dao word, changed, and seemed like a kill word, changed again, a birth word, and changed again, a destruction word. In a flash, it changed trillions of times, and each time it changed, it was a cosmic truth that could derive from everything.
This rune is the original rune. Existence and non existence, Emptiness and non-emptiness, universe and non-universe, corporeal and incorporeal and non-corporeal and non-incorporeal, all appear from this character.
Zhou Qin got suddenly shocked after seeing this character.
"How could it be? How could it be? This is the meaning of annulled null immortality that I can't understand. You can even understand it." Zhou Qin's face finally changed.
When he saw this character, he already knew that Qin Guang's understanding of annulled null immortality was actually above his own. That is to say, Qin Guang wasn't just an arrogant man who had obtained a fortuitous encounter. In fact, his cultivation realm was higher than his own, which he could not bear. - Chapter 1129

Some settings: in Dragon Talisman (and Divine Dreamwalker verse in general) there is something called Heart/The Mind. It is the highest thing, existing in every living being as their 'Buddha Nature', 'Brahman/梵', Heart of Tao. All realms and concepts of cultivation are just extensions of the finite pipeline to the infinite heart

Spoiler

• The Soul:
  • The soul and Consciousness are the same[23] (raw[24]), The alternation between reality and illusion, even the real world, was perceived through the soul. All forms were formed by the soul's perception.[25] (raw[26]).
• The Heart:
  • It is the will, mind, heart of a living being. The human heart is above the Heavenly Dao[27] (raw[28]). The dao of heaven created humans as an experiment, but in the end, what was created was a being unfathomable to and outside it's control[29] (raw[30]). Primal Chaos gave birth to all things. All things can be extracted from it and yet, the hearts of all people is similar. When one governs a country, the collective consciousness of the people produces a type of energy depending on the type of governing body[31] (raw[32]). Later directly stated that governing body receives types of benefits from the hearts of all people[33] (raw[34]). For example, Gu Chensha and his allies cultivate and extract from people their wishes, oaths, emotions, hope. Born from their thoughts of thinking about a good future, as well as their will to work hard and develop themselves. [35] (raw[36]). they then have enough to warp reality with the hearts of people[37] (raw[38]). Which is why the way of governing defines the era. Additionally, the collective consciousness can also be used in an offensive manner. For example, Wu Dangkong had negative rumours spread about her. Making her hated among the common people, warping reality in a minor way to curse her fate, affecting her daily life and cultivation, as she isn't able to absorb the energy of the world without it having curses infused within, specifically targeting her that she needs first purify.[39] (raw[40]).

心灵的力量是无限，而输出的管道是有限的，人的修为，就是如何把这输出的管道扩大，使得自己能够更多的运用心灵的力量。
谁能够输出的多，输出得猛，谁的修为就更加厉害。
这就是古尘沙开创的修炼方式。chapter 1118
The power of one's spirit was limitless, but the channels of output were limited. A person's cultivation base was all about expanding the channels of output, so that they could utilize more of their spirit power.
Whoever could output more, and with more ferocity, would have a stronger cultivation base.
That was the cultivation method Gu Chensha had created.

“增强实力很简单，不停的释放心灵之力缔造世界，你给予世界的东西越多，世界就会提升你的权柄。其实实力和境界，都是新世界展现的舞台而已。你可以把境界想象成旧世界的官位，你给新世界多少钱，新世界就会让你当多大的官，当然钱的意思就是你的心灵之力。官就是你的境界。”这孩童对儒祖和爱祖解释着：“现在新世界的缔造者在制定另外一套称呼来形容境界，到时候你就知道了。比如我，前前后后一共释放出来心灵之力，缔造了三十万斤的灵石，献给世界，新世界就让我能够展现出来道境二十变的修为。”
“其实每个人的心灵之力都是无边无际的，如果我们全部释放出来，没有任何力量可以形容，但这个世界限制了我们的施展空间，我们只有给予世界力量，他才能够扩大，才能够让我们有施展的空间，我们给予世界的越多，施展力量的空间就越大。”这个时候，那个带队的少女道：“如果你们两人能够一下给新世界祖境那么庞大的心灵之力，那么你们立刻就可以展现出来祖境的修为。” Chapter 1034
It is simple to increase strength. Keep releasing spirit power to create the world. The more you give to the world, the more authority you will have. Actually, strength and realm are just a stage for the new world to show off. You can think of realm as an official position in the old world. How much money you give to the new world, the new world will give you that position. Of course, money refers to your spirit power. Official is your realm. " The child explained to Confucianism Ancestor and Ancestor of Love, "Now, the creator of the new world is coming up with another way to describe realms. When the time comes, you will know. For example, I released a total of spirit power and created 150,000 kilograms of spirit stones to give to the new world. The new world allowed me to display Dao Realm 20 Transformation cultivation. "
"Actually, everyone's spirit force is boundless and boundless. If we release all of our spirit force, there's no other power that can describe it. However, this world restricts the space we can unleash our power. Only by providing energy to the world can it expand, allowing us to unleash our power. The more energy we provide to the world, the greater the space we can unleash our power." At that moment, the leading girl said, "If the two of you can give such a huge amount of spirit power to the new world, then you will be able to display Ancestor Realm cultivation."

只有深入其中，才可以了解生命的奥秘，灵魂的奇妙，还有一种超越灵魂的东西，那就是本性，道心，或者是佛性，也是瑜伽之中的“梵”。
“梵就是我，我就是梵 Chapter 313 Kung-Fu: Point of No End (author is martial artist so)
Only by going deep into it can we understand the mystery of life, the wonder of the soul, and something beyond the soul, that is, the nature, the heart of Tao, or the Buddha nature, which is also the "Brahman" in yoga.
"Brahman is me, and I am Brahman

Ha ha ha ha......" The giant who created the cosmic ocean laughed: "Without the limitation of lifespan and the control of the virtual panel, I can express my power endlessly, and finally I have completed my own thoughts. I created my own cosmic sea. Every drop of water in this ocean is a universe, and there is a universe inside the universe, one loop after another. I think the universe has no secrets for me now. My power can be improved endlessly because the power of my mind is infinite, and in the universes I created, the power of every creature is also infinite. Many infinities plus infinities, and the power is indescribable“ Chapter 1147

 

[Ultima_Reality]

The infinite hierarchy stuff doesn't sound very convincing as evidence that Annulled Amaranth in specific is High 1-A. Those statements seem to be talking about levels of cultivation in general, of which AA is only the 10th, no?

I also want information on how the Buddha/Tao/Brahman stuff relates to AA, since the quote you've sent mentioning that isn't terribly clear. But, as for the nonduality statement: Yeah, seems like it does transcend the distinction between 1-A and lower-than-1-A, in this case. I'm fine with High 1-A.

 

[Rabbit2002]

The infinite hierarchy stuff doesn't sound very convincing as evidence that Annulled Amaranth in specific is High 1-A. Those statements seem to be talking about levels of cultivation in general, of which AA is only the 10th, no?

I also want information on how the Buddha/Tao/Brahman stuff relates to AA, since the quote you've sent mentioning that isn't terribly clear.

As I said, AA as well as the other infinite higher realms are just different manifestations of the extension of the finite pipeline to the infinite Mind (aka Brahman, Tao, Buddha-Nature). But just as no one truly understands AA or the higher realms, the same goes for the Mind. As this quote states, this character is a Non-immortality and created a cosmic sea (which has been accepted as High 1-B) to stack all the infinite spiritual power of each living creature in it to become stronger

Ha ha ha ha......" The giant who created the cosmic ocean laughed: "Without the limitation of lifespan and the control of the virtual panel, I can express my power endlessly, and finally I have completed my own thoughts. I created my own cosmic sea. Every drop of water in this ocean is a universe, and there is a universe inside the universe, one loop after another. I think the universe has no secrets for me now. My power can be improved endlessly because the power of my mind is infinite, and in the universes I created, the power of every creature is also infinite. Many infinities plus infinities, and the power is indescribable“ Chapter 1147

But as a result, he died due to unbearability and lack of control over his mind, the same thing happened to the majority of the multiverse (and worse because they had to face the Mandala Catalog on a multiverse scale).

Just as this giant was endlessly increasing his power, he suddenly felt that he was unable to control his own power. That massive spirit force went berserk.
"What's going on? What's going on? I can't control the power in my body at all."
This giant was greatly shocked. He felt that the Cosmic Ocean he had created was fluctuating, and this vibration caused a certain resonance in his body and spirit. Then, it destroyed him directly.
A gush of flames rose up.
Amidst the flames, this giant crumbled bit by bit. Finally, amidst his agonizing cries, he turned into ashes.
This was just an example.
He recklessly cultivated and increased his power. Finally, he could no longer control his spirit force, causing this massive spirit force to go berserk and turn into nothingness.
In the years that followed, there were many such examples.
Because many giants had released their pressure, they wanted to release all their spirit force in one go to increase their cultivation. However, the result was death.
The spirit force was the hardest to control.
It was like a person who was about to starve to death suddenly seeing many delicacies. Therefore, he ate and drank to his heart's content without restraint, and in the end, he died from bloating.
"Chensha, the entire multivariate universe/multiverse is about to welcome a new round of reshuffling."
In a secret location, Lou Baiyue and the others, as well as Gu Chensha, once again observed the multivariate universe.
"Chensha, you removed that virtual panel. As expected, it didn't bring good things. Instead, it brought round after round of disasters. Many people couldn't control their spirit force because of this and met with calamities. Look at that giant!" The Martial Sage pointed to a supreme major character in an unbelievable world. In the past, this major character was an existence with a lifespan of several trillion years.
However, after the virtual interface disappeared, a devil was born in the depths of his heart. This devil had the same divine abilities as him.
This devil was the condensation of the darkness in his heart. It had the same divine abilities, the same intellect, and the same ability as him.
The moment the devil appeared, he started a massacre, causing the universe he was in to flow with rivers of blood. In the end, the devil turned against him. As the two of them fought, the universe was destroyed, and they perished together.
The same thing happened to many major characters. They themselves could create universes with a single thought, let alone powerful existences that were born from the depths of their hearts. Chapter 1147

For those who are more fortunate, they gain unlimited control over their mind and can therefore utilize the unlimited power of the mind without side effects. However, that only brings them "closer" to AA

We've collected it. The data generated from the revolution this time around is millions of times more than what we've collected over the past hundreds of millions of years. This is because they have completely released their spirit force, especially when they lost control. They can provide us with countless experiences. Now, we estimate that we can control it more perfectly and reach the end with unlimited control ability to promote unlimited spiritual power. By doing so, we will be closer to the Annulled Amaranth realm (非有无不朽之境)." Zhuge Ya looked at the data and analyzed it on his own, comprehending some things.
“收集到了，这一次的变革所产生的许多数据，是我们亿年来所采集的千百万倍，因为他们彻底释放了自己的心灵之力，特别是失控的这种表现，可以给我们提供无数的经验，我们现在推算，可以更加完美的控制，到达最后，以无限的掌控能力，推动无限的心灵之力，如此一来，就已经更加接近非有无不朽之境界了。”诸葛牙看着数据不停的跳跃自行分析，更加参悟了某些东西。Chapter 1147

When the first AA appeared, he created a grid (also AA in nature) to encompass all the minds of the multiverse, creating a bridge between it and reality as well as transforming things like negative emotions into energy.

Suddenly, it seemed that something spread to the entire multiverse. For a moment, in the depths of the multiverse, countless filthy negative mental forces seemed to be absorbed by some invincible force, and then this force kept rotating, forming a huge network, so that all creatures in the multiverse can communicate with everyone with their minds, no matter how far away in time and space, they can communicate through this great mental network.
Moreover, this mental network can also absorb people's negative emotions, so that all creatures eliminate the risk of going astray.
"Is this, Gu Chensha's move?"
"The only one who can have this ability is Gu Chensha..."
In the multiverse, countless masters discussed.
But at this time, a voice resounded in everyone's mind: "I, Hao Xuan, have achieved the tenth level of immortality, the realm of Annulled Amaranth (非有无不朽之境界). From now on, the entire multiverse is under my rule. Of course, I have created the Annulled Amaranth network (非有无不朽之网络), so that you can connect to this network through your mind. You all have to abide by the rules, and you can obtain immortal life, and there is no risk of going astray.."
突然之间，似乎是某种东西传播到达了整个多元宇宙，一时之间，多元宇宙深处，无数污秽的负面心灵之力似乎被某种无敌的力量给吸收走，然后这股力量不停旋转，构成了一个巨大网络，使得多元宇宙之中，所有生灵，都可以用心灵沟通所有的人，无论是多么遥远的时空，都可以通过这个伟大的心灵网络进行交流。
而且，这心灵网络还可以吸取人的负面情绪，使得所有生灵消除了走火入魔的风险。
“这是，古尘沙出手了么？”
“能够有这种能力的，只有古尘沙吧......”
多元宇宙之中，无数的高手议论纷纷。
但就在这时候，一个声音在所有人的心灵中响彻起来：“本座昊玄，修成了不朽十层非有无不朽之境界。从此之后，整个多元宇宙，都在我的统治之下，当然我缔造了非有无不朽之网络，使得你们通过心灵，都可以连接这个网络，你们都要遵守规则，就可以获得不朽之寿命，再也没有走火入魔的风险。” Chapter 1148

"Gu Chensha, look, this is the universe I created, and everyone in the multiverse has now found their place. They use the power of my virtual network to feedback to reality, completely changing everything."
The scene turned to a village in a corner of the universe, still in the most primitive era. The people here only practiced martial arts and hunted, and had no idea of any changes in the outside world. But one day, suddenly the mind connected to the network, and a huge amount of information came in.
Immediately, all the people in this village gained unprecedented knowledge, practiced martial arts, greatly improved their strength, and broadened their horizons. At the same time, they would also use their spiritual power to obtain many resources in the network.
Then, the scene turned again.
In a harsh lava, desert, withered, desolate, and hellish universe, there lived many humans who struggled to survive. Their abilities were not enough to escape from this universe. They lacked food, and they did not even have the basic ability to practice, but the network came and connected to their minds.
Immediately, they learned a lot of things, and could even absorb materials from the network, which eventually improved this barren universe and made it full of vitality.
"You see, all people can use the power of the mind to intervene in reality and even create things with the mind, but the disadvantage is that the higher the cultivation, the stronger the negative emotions, which eventually lead to obsession and even the destruction of the multiverse by negative emotions. But after my network was born, all the negative emotions became the power of the network. You see..."
Hao Xuan suddenly grabbed it, and it seemed that the entire multiverse was shrinking. Countless universes were in his palm. In the universe, the dense network penetrated into every corner.
The network was like a huge vortex, absorbing all negative emotions and transforming them into power.
Then these powers turned into data and gathered on Hao Xuan.
“古尘沙，你看，这是我所缔造的宇宙，还有，多元宇宙之中的每一个人，现在都找到了自己的位置，他们运用我的虚拟网络力量，反馈到达现实之中，彻底改变了所有。”
画面一转，是一个宇宙角落的乡村，还是处于最原始的时代，这里的人不过是练武，狩猎，根本不知道外界的任何变化，但在某一天，突然心灵连接到达了网络之中，顿时海量的信息冲击而来。
立刻，这个乡村所有的人都获得了前所未有的知识，修炼功法，实力大幅度提升，眼界开阔了许多，与此同时，他们也会利用自己的心灵之力，在网络中获取许多资源。
然后，画面又一转。
在一片恶劣的熔岩，沙漠，枯萎，荒凉，似乎是地狱一般的宇宙中，生活着许多人类，这些人类苦苦挣扎求生，他们的能力，不足以脱离这个宇宙，他们的食物匮乏，甚至连修行的基本能力都不会，但是那网络降临了，连接到了他们的心灵。
立刻，他们就学会了许多东西，甚至可以从网络中摄取物质，最终就改善了这个贫瘠的宇宙，使得宇宙变得生机勃勃。
“你看，所有的人运用心灵的力量，可以干预现实，甚至心灵造物，但是弊端就是修为越高，负面情绪越强，最后导致于走火入魔，甚至使得多元宇宙都被负面情绪毁灭，但我的网络诞生之后，所有的负面情绪反而成为了网络运转的力量，你看.......”
昊玄突然一抓，似乎整个多元宇宙在缩小，无数恒沙数目的宇宙都在的手掌之中，在宇宙之中，密密麻麻的网络渗透进入了每一个角落。
网络就如巨大的旋涡，吸收所有的负面情绪，转化为了动力。
然后这些动力，又化为了数据，汇聚到达昊玄的身上。Chapter 1149

But then the MC revealed that this network is not eternal because the vision of this AA is too low and cannot withstand the karma of sentient beings (Later there will be many beings who reach AA or higher), implying that even AA has not truly understood and grasped the Mind.

"You have cultivated the Undying Realm, but you still haven't comprehended what realms and cultivation are. The Undying Realm is the tenth level of the Undying Realm. What is the eleventh level, the twelfth level, and the thirteenth level? You don't even know about it. You can't even imagine what this realm is like. Your vision is too low, and you can't bear the karma of all living beings. This network of yours is not bad, though. It's also the wealth you've left behind. To strengthen the connection of this network and serve all living beings better, you should integrate yourself into this network as well. That way, you can maintain the balance of this multiverse. However, your network is flawed. It isn't truly eternal. It isn't a problem now, but as more and more negative emotions accumulate, the poison will be hidden and unable to be converted. When it accumulates and explodes, it will be unstoppable. Even the heavens will be destroyed. Now, I will break everything and merge with it. " Chapter 1149

After a hundred million years, Hao Xuan was once more forgotten. That was because some of the old-timers had replaced him and reached the Annulled Amaranth realm (非有无不朽的境)
在这亿年的岁月之中，什么昊玄再次被人所遗忘，因为有一些老古董取而代之，也练成了非有无不朽的境界 Chapter 1149

In addition, the network also acts as a Super Heavenly Dao for the mind. The Heavenly Dao is essentially the system and cosmology that controls all aspects of reality. All Daos are apart of the Heavenly Dao[299] (raw[300]) that predates and gave birth to primal chaos[301] (raw[302]))

That's right. This network can be said to have gathered all the information in the entire universe. It is equivalent to a super invincible Heavenly Dao that operates its own order. Everyone will be able to learn knowledge that they could never have come into contact with before through their minds. This way, the entire multiverse can develop rapidly, and everyone's strength can reach the highest limits." Chapter 1149

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Heavenly Dao:

• The Governing concept/system of the series. It is the true origin of all. It is essentially the cosmology itself and has a will. space, time, all living beings, all things[17] (raw[18]), is the will of primordial chaos, life and death[19] (raw[20]). Even the creation of reality from primal chaos was by it's doing[21] (raw[22])). Additionally, it is in control of it's aspects; "all space and time, all existence, all power, all cause and effect, all laws, all fate, all the inconceivable, unfathomable, unpredictable, and unmeasurable existence of the world

The Heavenly Dao controlled all things. Everything that existed and did not exist, what happened in the past, what was happening now, and what would happen in the future were all controlled by the Heavenly Dao. - Chapter 880

天道掌握万物万象,一切存在的和不存在的,过去发生的,现在正在发生的,将来会发生法一切都在天道的掌控之中。- Chapter 880

 

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So Ultima accepted Gu Chensha as High1-A, right? But he still hasn't been accepted in terms of the endless hierarchy, right?