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Dragon Ball Super - Jiren and Co. Upgrade via Void Scaling

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Wise choice tbh.

Anyways, never thought I'd see the day that ToP Goku becomes 2-C, but here we are. GG guys.

At this rate, Low 1-C DBX and DBH might not be impossible after all.
 
Yeah, I do feel for AKM and probably understand his pain more than most. But he really does not want to touch a Dragon Ball thread given the issues both sides have admittedly been guilty of.
 
Yeah, I do feel for AKM and probably understand his pain more than most. But he really does not want to touch a Dragon Ball thread given the issues both sides have admittedly been guilty of.
 
Remind me what the justification for them being 2-C would be?
 
Its just a inconsistency. We see plp like broly,moro,goku,granola ect go all out and the universe is not destroyed
 
Its just a inconsistency. We see plp like broly,moro,goku,granola ect go all out and the universe is not destroyed
That just means those characters have far better ki control

Because 2 GOD’s can NOT fight or else 2 universes will be destroyed.
 
Actually Broly doesn’t even need good ki control. As long as Goku is good at controlling his ki then he can mitigate the universe destroying shockwaves. Like when he fought Beerus
 
Broly and Gogeta only directly clashed head to head twice that entire fight IIRC and each time literally performed feats that were unprecedented for the DBS cast they would scale to up to then, shattering through the universe to another dimension and destroying it. Even if said feats aren’t quantifiable to 2-C in terms of environmental destruction, the novel outright describes their reality shattering clash as a new dimension of strength and should upscale via similar reasoning here for shaking the WoV being 2-C/above the GoDs.
Energy containing might of a different dimension collides between the two.
Broly is not a remotely valid example for the perceived supposed inconsistency.
 
Why can't the gods be holding back here or also use ki control
Because it doesn't work for GoDs. They are effectively banned from engaging with each other in physical combat in any manner whatsoever, lest they risk the destruction of their respective universes, and this isn't something they can control simply because of their godhood, IT WILL HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF HOW INSANE YOUR KI CONTROL IS IF YOU ARE A GOD OF DESTRUCTION. Everyone else is fair game, however.
 
Broly and Gogeta only directly clashed head to head twice that entire fight IIRC and each time literally performed feats that were unprecedented for the DBS cast they would scale to up to then, shattering through the universe to another dimension and destroying it. Even if said feats aren’t quantifiable to 2-C in terms of environmental destruction, the novel outright describes their reality shattering clash as a new dimension of strength and should upscale via similar reasoning here for shaking the WoV being 2-C/above the GoDs.

Broly is not a remotely valid example for the perceived supposed inconsistency.
No they never destroyed the universe despite them going all out. Reality shattering is just in reference to them breaking into another dimension

Broly is valid he stated to be stronger than jiren
 
Why can't the gods be holding back here or also use ki control
Because it wouldn't make sense. The whole purpose was to test the durability of something. Why would they make it so it wouldn't be affected? They weren't looking for a fight. They were looking to test the stage.
 
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