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It wasn’t there wasn’t a speed multiplier accepted, it’s that it wasn’t applied yet.The Super Saiyan God Speed multiplier
A while ago a thread was made to determine SSG's multiplier. It was concluded that SSG's power multiplier should be higher than the gap between Buu Saga Base Goku and Super Saiyan 3 Vegito. However this principle should be applied to SSG Goku's speed multiplier as well. First, a few points 1...vsbattles.com
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Nah, only a power multiplier was ever acceptedIt wasn’t there wasn’t a speed multiplier accepted, it’s that it wasn’t applied yet.
I don't know why not. Since the fighting power thing, generally being stronger is being more everything, but strong, fast and durable. Something demonstrated by Kaioken and SSJ.Nah, only a power multiplier was ever accepted
That note is wrong both krillin and fat gotenks could react and evade cell max picclo and beast or gamma can’t statue cell max despite being like trillions of times stronger then gotenks and krillinWe even have a note that greater ki = greater everything including speed, and generally in DB being stronger means having greater ki.
in the case of SSJ1 and Kaioken we have either explicit statements that works that way, or demonstrations of such, SSJ2 and up power multiplier was gotten by purely upscaling from a purely power multiplier,I don't know why not. Since the fighting power thing, generally being stronger is being more everything, but strong, fast and durable. Something demonstrated by Kaioken and SSJ.
which doesn't mean "greater power in a certain amount = greater everything in the same amount"We even have a note that greater ki = greater everything including speed, and generally in DB being stronger means having greater ki.
because again, ssj2 and up is purely upscaling from a power multiplier, nothing elseI don't even know why the larger SSJ multipliers don't include speed, since they are the same concept as the SSJ but with a larger multiplier.
which proves that raising a stat doesn't make your power grow in the same amount, else Dyspo wouldn't be any faster than ToppoThere are only a few cases that focus on specific statistics, like Dyspo, which has a transformation that specifically increases speed.
While greater Ki will always make you faster, the wiki doesn't treat a linear increase in Ki to mean an increase to every single stat in the exact same way, otherwise SSG Goku would've had immeasurable speed just by being 2-CI don't know why not. Since the fighting power thing, generally being stronger is being more everything, but strong, fast and durable. Something demonstrated by Kaioken and SSJ.
We even have a note that greater ki = greater everything including speed, and generally in DB being stronger means having greater ki.
I don't even know why the larger SSJ multipliers don't include speed, since they are the same concept as the SSJ but with a larger multiplier.
the manga contradicts them, as SSJ2 is implied superior to Grade 3, which is 10x greater than normal Super Saiyan, so this doesn't do muchYou say that the SSJ after the first one don't have official multipliers, etc., but what about these scans? Or are they fake and I didn't know?
The manga? From what I know, the 10x comes from el Manga Legendario and not directly from the manga itself.the manga contradicts them, as SSJ2 is implied superior to Grade 3, which is 10x greater than normal Super Saiyan, so this doesn't do much
pretty sure the wiki accepts the El Manga Legendario as more reliable than the Super Exiting GuideThe manga? From what I know, the 10x comes from el Manga Legendario and not directly from the manga itself.
It would only be contradictory if there was proof that The Legendary Manga is more reliable than this DB databook that shows the SSJ 2 and 3 multipliers.
Is there any crt that says this? What provides evidence that The Legendary Manga is more reliable than the Super Exiting Guide?pretty sure the wiki accepts the El Manga Legendario as more reliable than the Super Exiting Guide
The Wiki accepts the Super Saiyan 2 and 3 multipliers provided by the Super Exciting Guide as contradicting their in-universe portrayals (e.g., Gohan turning a stomp around against Cell with a supposedly 2x multiplier; SSJ Gohan cannot, under any circumstance, be comparable to Perfect Cell).pretty sure the wiki accepts the El Manga Legendario as more reliable than the Super Exiting Guide
Also consider the fact that SSJ Gohan went from being stomped by Perfect Cell, to outpacing his powerhouse form which is his equivalent to SS Grade 3 (said form also turned around a stomp when Trunks used it, he's just too slow), and even his Super Perfect form which is incomparably stronger than his Powerhouse form, with Gohan only having just half of his power.The Wiki accepts the Super Saiyan 2 and 3 multipliers provided by the Super Exciting Guide as contradicting their in-universe portrayals (e.g., Gohan turning a stomp around against Cell with a supposedly 2x multiplier; SSJ Gohan cannot, under any circumstance, be comparable to Perfect Cell).
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There's also this statement in the El Manga Legendario:
Yea it sucks lolBro I ain't getting notifications I thought you guys are quite as hell
Bleach got infinite speed? Lmao this site is something elseBleach achieved infinite speed, it's time for Dragon Ball to leave MFTL+, we've been at this thing for ages.
It's just for a specific technique that no one really adapts.Bleach got infinite speed? Lmao this site is something else
Yes, Bleach reached infinite speed, I can't believe it, because people did everything they could to make sure Bleach didn't leave the planetBleach got infinite speed? Lmao this site is something else
I also think that we should resume this project so that the Universe can be infinite again and have infinite speed, as well as having infinite emptiness, according to some translators, we can achieve that the void becomes infinite again with the measurement of time that's what they told me.I really do think DB can get infinite universe again, the thread debunking it which got accepted isn't all that solid imo, but I'm not one to speak about translations or anything
Hell will be infinite and Goku will have infinite speed, plus we can get other things besides that, heheheI don't know why you care so much about the universe being infinite or not.
The only thing that will happen when accepting this is that we will lose the calculation of the speed of that ball of universal energy and infinite speed will be treated as an outlier. Then there will be no benefit.
I highly doubt that infinite speed will be accepted, when the infinite universe was first accepted, basically almost everyone on the staff agreed that infinite speed would be an outlier (from what I remember)Hell will be infinite and Goku will have infinite speed, plus we can get other things besides that, hehehe
I highly doubt that infinite speed will be accepted, when the infinite universe was first accepted, basically almost everyone on the staff agreed that infinite speed would be an outlier (from what I remember)
So making the universe infinite will only make verse lose several speed calculations and I don't see what concrete benefit it would give to verse, considering that we don't have 3-A characters (as far as I remember) and 2-C wouldn't be affected at all.
Infinite speed is accepted in other circles but it'll prolly never be accepted here