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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

NishizumiShiho said:
OOT: I have a question, if my OC is city level at base and she can turn into Mastered Super Saiyan aka Super Saiyan Grade IV, how strong is she in MSSJ and what's the multiplier of MSSJ?

This stuff still confused me to this day.

My OC is at Baseline City level
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Super Saiyan would make her 7-A (315 MegaTons), MSSJ is considered the same multiplier here in the wiki so the same. Super Saiyan Grade 2 (ie Super Vegeta) is way stronger than Super Saiyan Grade 1, Super Saiyan Grade 3 is 10x stronger, that boosts her to High 7-A+ (3.1 Gigatons)

Beyond Super Saiyan Grade 3 there's no additional multipliers so you can only get upscaling here. With Super Saiyan 2 or Super Saiyan 3 you can get an upscale to Baseline 6-C (4.3 Gigatons)
 
Padaruyos said:
Super Saiyan would make her 7-A (315 MegaTons), MSSJ is considered the same multiplier here in the wiki so the same. Super Saiyan Grade 2 (ie Super Vegeta) is way stronger than Super Saiyan Grade 1, Super Saiyan Grade 3 is 10x stronger, that boosts her to High 7-A+ (3.1 Gigatons)

Beyond Super Saiyan Grade 3 there's no additional multipliers so you can only get upscaling here. With Super Saiyan 2 or Super Saiyan 3 you can get an upscale to Baseline 6-C (4.3 Gigatons)
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Interesting, thank you so much.
 
NishizumiShiho said:
I thought Grade III was weaker than Grade IV?
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Nah, in the story the emphasis on Grade IV is energy and stamina efficiency. Would be weird to assume such a form makes Grade IV stronger than Grade III. Any strength boost Goku gets in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber can be attributed to his strengthened base form rather than a stronger transformation.
 
Buu Saga question about my AU

So a character uses Kaioken times 100 and are on par with SS2 Majin Vegeta (note: should be stronger then Cannon due to training with someone else in the 7 year time skip), how strong is their base form and kaioken times 50 respectively?
 
Spinoirr said:
Buu Saga question about my AU

So a character uses Kaioken times 100 and are on par with Majin Vegeta (note: should be stronger then Cannon due to training with someone else in the 7 year time skip), how strong is their base form and kaioken times 50 respectively?
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So, your character is as strong as Majin Vegeta while usinh Kaioken times 100 (which has equivalent boost to Super Saiyan Grade V, which 100 times boost from base)

I think the characters have base powr similar to Buu Saga Goku or Vegeta.
 
Spinoirr said:
Buu Saga question about my AU

So a character uses Kaioken times 100 and are on par with SS2 Majin Vegeta (note: should be stronger then Cannon due to training with someone else in the 7 year time skip), how strong is their base form and kaioken times 50 respectively?
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Right. Your version of Majin Vegeta would be stronger than Canon Majin Vegeta, who is stronger than Cell Saga SS2 Gohan at 2.106 KiloFOE. We don't know how much stronger exactly so we'll use 2.106 KiloFOE (Solar System level) as a lowball.

Your OC with KKx100 would be equal to Majin Vegeta at 2.106 KiloFOE. KKx50 would be half that at 1.053 KiloFOE. (still Solar System level) Base form will be at 21.06 FOE (Large Star level+)

But given Majin Vegeta is stronger than Canon in your AU. You can upscale your OC's base form to 22.77 FOE (Baseline Solar System level). In which case their KKx50 is at 1.138 kFOE and their KKx100 at 2.277 kFOE
 
Spinoirr said:
Buu Saga question about my AU

So a character uses Kaioken times 100 and are on par with SS2 Majin Vegeta (note: should be stronger then Cannon due to training with someone else in the 7 year time skip), how strong is their base form and kaioken times 50 respectively?
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Hold on wait a second. Does this take place in the Manga Canon or Z Anime Canon? Because the scaling is entirely different there.
 
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Fezzih_007 said:
Kinda. Like, stating the same point twice is not really that good of a defence. I say kinda because is not your intention.
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I already had a debate that I had to explain about 400 times to the guy and he still didn't understand, it lasted more than 8 pages here, all because they wanted to downgrade of the Universe from low 2-C at that time to 3-A, the timelines are serious low 2-C, lol
 
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