Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Demon_Lord18]

Is there a DB character that you can pit against Hawk from NNT?

 

[Fezzih_007]

?

You have to ask on the all purpose request thread to open this, If you want the CRT to continue.

 

[Raskolux]

You have to ask on the all purpose request thread to open this, If you want the CRT to continue.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

What?

You know that all the gods of destruction are resistant to each other's e.e.

And since zeno can ignore their resistance (we have been told many times that there is nothing he cannot erase), he must take the layer, it is very simple

Ok, makes sense

Also arale>zeno has nothing to do with e.e.

EE in Dragon Ball is affiliated with AP, you can see that in Granolah arc when Vegeta is trying to learn hakai and was causing mini-explosions

 

[AwkguyDB]

Can I vent

Can mods please understand the verse before putting a disagree For Blah Blah. It’s annoying we make blogs and literally wait days of grace to make sure mods are familiar with things before commenting and Dread comes in and butchers the DB cosmology

 

[Raskolux]

Ok, makes sense

EE in Dragon Ball is affiliated with AP, you can see that in Granolah arc when Vegeta is trying to learn hakai and was causing mini-explosions

I do not understand the connection of this sampling with ap?

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

Beerus EE seems like an outlier, like, the only being in canon material that is Low 1-C is Zeno, and Beerus is obviously not comparable to Zeno

At the end of it all, the series treated it as if Beerus was going to erase Arale without much effort, in other words, a feat by Beerus without much effort is several times superior to the greatest feat in the anime that was done by a being that is massively superior to him

Except we know that being is much stronger than Beerus and would simply upscale. Mind you, we have a direct comparison between hakai and Zeno's erase, hakai can't kill a bring granted immortality by superb shenron, erase effortlessly did, so Zeno"s EE is already undeniably>>>>>hakai.
Anything hakai does, erase upscales, this is literally the basis for majority of db xters

Beerus and Goku nearly nuking the macrocosm has never been matched by an angel, but we know they would flex on that feat


As for him having 5d hax with Zeno, there can literally be an infinite power difference between 2 guys in 5D, you do realize they were both 2c until recently?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I do not understand the connection of this sampling with ap?

Vegeta was trying to do the hakai and was creating mini-explosions, showing that there is a relationship between the creation of hakai through destructive power

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Except we know that being is much stronger than Beerus and would simply upscale. Mind you, we have a direct comparison between hakai and Zeno's erase, hakai can't kill a bring granted immortality by superb shenron, erase effortlessly did, so Zeno"s EE is already undeniably>>>>>hakai.
Anything hakai does, erase upscales, this is literally the basis for majority of db xters

Beerus and Goku nearly nuking the macrocosm has never been matched by an angel, but we know they would flex on that feat


As for him having 5d hax with Zeno, there can literally be an infinite power difference between 2 guys in 5D, you do realize they were both 2c until recently?

do you know that, if we accept the Beerus "feat" against Arale, he would be stronger than Zeno, right?

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

He won't? Hakai negates durability. Him erasing Arale is just resistance negation

 

[Raskolux]

Vegeta was trying to do the hakai and was creating mini-explosions, showing that there is a relationship between the creation of hakai through destructive power

NO?

"For example" you can produce 6-C fireballs covered with 4D e.e. This has nothing to do with e.e=physical statistics

We had the same e.e ratings when Arale used to be considered 2-B, and beerus or zeno was not considered 2-B or anything like that, mate, all we had was 4D e.e. Now all we'll have is 5D e.e.

 

[Raskolux]

do you know that, if we accept the Beerus "feat" against Arale, he would be stronger than Zeno, right?

No, again?

Zeno scales on all kinds of beerus, I think I've explained this in detail.

 

[Skarfz]

do you know that, if we accept the Beerus "feat" against Arale, he would be stronger than Zeno, right?

I dont think you understood what hes saying.
Beerus being capable of erasing arale will just make zeno stronger than him, because we are explicitly shown that Zeno's EE is better.

There's literally no way this feat is an outlier

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

I mean, Zen'oh should be inherently capable of erasing Arale.

Whis, who witnessed Arale and knew she had gag powers, stated that Zen'oh can erase everything

 

[Phsccarvalho]

It's pretty annoying when guys don't know DB and don't know that we always use "Timeline" to refer to the hypertimeline, and not to individual universes.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

NO?

"For example" you can produce 6-C fireballs covered with 4D e.e. This has nothing to do with e.e=physical statistics

We had the same e.e ratings when Arale used to be considered 2-B, and beerus or arale was not considered 2-B or anything like that, mate, all we had was 4D e.e. Now all we'll have is 5D e.e.

This is how work in DB and my example prove it, Vegeta was tying to do the hakai through AP

No, again?

Zeno scales on all kinds of beerus, I think I've explained this in detail.

I dont think you understood what hes saying.
Beerus being capable of erasing arale will just make zeno stronger than him, because we are explicitly shown that Zeno's EE is better.

There's literally no way this feat is an outlier

And the biggest Zeno feat is weaker than the biggest feat from Arale, it´s simple to understand, Zeno is weaker than Arale and we don´t have reasons to say someone who is weaker than Zeno is stronger than someone who is superior to him

 

[AwkguyDB]

It's pretty annoying when guys don't know DB and don't know that we always use "Timeline" to refer to the hypertimeline, and not to individual universes.

Yes this needs to be a note on the verse page

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

The first "debunk" has already come guys (and this time ins´t a joke)

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

The first "debunk" has already come guys (and this time ins´t a joke)

Mum I'm famous. @ProfectusInfinity I summon thee!

 

[Skarfz]

The first "debunk" has already come guys (and this time ins´t a joke)

Its literally the dude from the discord that Profectus has shown lmao

 

[Skarfz]

Im going into the video just to say "nuh uh"

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

It took about a day after the CRT for the video to come out, I thought a debunk would come sooner

 

[Raskolux]

This is how work in DB and my example prove it, Vegeta was tying to do the hakai through AP




And the biggest Zeno feat is weaker than the biggest feat from Arale, it´s simple to understand, Zeno is weaker than Arale and we don´t have reasons to say someone who is weaker than Zeno is stronger than someone who is superior to him

Don't you understand? Or don't you want to understand? e.e≠ap or any other damn statistics. You couldn't prove it by saying that "this is how things work in the db"

Again, while arale was accepted as 2-B on the wiki, it was proceeding according to the logic I mentioned, and beerus or zeno were not 2-B, "all we had" was 4D e.e.


Also, I'm tired of saying this over and over again, no one says zeno>arale? the only thing that happens is that zeno's e.e ignores arale's resistance

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Can we not focus on this beerus thing?

There is already a war going on in the IZ crt, and we have people like claver and dread who seem to confuse the fear we use.

For example, always refer to hyperlines as timelines, since that's what the verse treats.

After this IZ crt, I think we should make a small crt to add that note, perhaps.

I mean, I doubt people look at the back page to see that little bit of information.

 

[AwkguyDB]

Wait so if Zamasu gets low 1-C range

……what does that mean about Goku’s senzu bean statement

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Don't you understand? Or don't you want to understand? e.e≠ap or any other damn statistics. You couldn't prove it "by saying that this is how things work in the db" doesn't prove anything

Again, while arale was accepted as 2-B on the wiki, it was proceeding according to the logic I mentioned, and beerus or zeno were not 2-B, "all we had" was 4D e.e.


Also, I'm tired of saying this over and over again, no one says zeno>arale? the only thing that happens is that zeno's e.e ignores arale's resistance

Ok man i´m tired, i already provide my example to prove my point, let´s stop with it

 

[Skarfz]

Wait so if Zamasu gets low 1-C range

……what does that mean about Goku’s senzu bean statement

Nothing, since its range

 

[Nierre]

this is gonna in turn just make ppl want the main cast to scale to this ffs

 

[AwkguyDB]

this is gonna in turn just make ppl want the main cast to scale to this ffs

lol that’s a given but it was quickly shut down in the thread

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Wait so if Zamasu gets low 1-C range

……what does that mean about Goku’s senzu bean statement

This means goku black with Low 1-C range with the time ring.

 

[Raskolux]

Ok man i´m tired, i already provide my example to prove my point, let´s stop with it

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

 

[Skarfz]

Well low 1-C range actually makes sense.
Goku black went to other timelines with the ring
While zamasu himself is already the timeline, because if hes capable of doing that without a time ring, that would need to be low 1-C.

 

[AwkguyDB]

This means goku black with Low 1-C range with the time ring.

But like do we still hold to the idea that if Goku had another senzu bean he would have been able to defeat Zamasu?

 

[Raskolux]

Can we not focus on this beerus thing?

There is already a war going on in the IZ crt, and we have people like claver and dread who seem to confuse the fear we use.

For example, always refer to hyperlines as timelines, since that's what the verse treats.

After this IZ crt, I think we should make a small crt to add that note, perhaps.

I mean, I doubt people look at the back page to see that little bit of information.

Of course, man.

 

[AwkguyDB]

Well low 1-C range actually makes sense.
Goku black went to other timelines with the ring
While zamasu himself is already the timeline, because if hes capable of doing that without a time ring, that would need to be low 1-C.

This would also go to the manga black and merged zamasu

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

This would also go to the manga black and merged zamasu

Yes

 

[ChronoULT]

This means goku black with Low 1-C range with the time ring.

And Trunks with the Time Machine

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Since we have a new tier for Zeno we could see what fights we can take from his profile

 

[AwkguyDB]

And Trunks with the Time Machine

and Cell