Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[LordGriffin1000]

I'll congratulate you disks on potentially achieving Tier 1 but I'll say the same thing I said in the God of War thread and that is, this tier is hard to reach and even harder to maintain, so keep your arguments on hand for possible future threads. God knows a thread regarding Tier 1 and our standards pop up every now and again.

 

[Huesito88]

are we back on this sideways time stuff?

Criss cross

 

[AwkguyDB]

are we back on this sideways time stuff?

Hell nah just some bloke getting upset cuz the current Tier 1 standards make Ben 10 and DB tier 1

 

[AwkguyDB]

I'll congratulate you disks on potentially achieving Tier 1 but I'll say the same thing I said in the God of War thread and that is, this tier is hard to reach and even harder to maintain, so keep your arguments on hand for possible future threads. God knows a thread regarding Tier 1 and our standards pop up every now and again.

So no Tier 1 ToP Upgrades???? Dang it

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

That revision thread is confusing me. I can't tell what will and won't effect tier 1 DB

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I do not understand anything

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

DontTalkDT Could you speak more simply so we can all understand

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

They way both sides are liking DT's comment tells me they are both construing whatever he is saying as beneficial to their arguement.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I'm really enjoying everything to see where I end up

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I don't think I'll be able to sleep properly, It's almost 2am and I'm worried about it

 

[JirensMom]

“If the timeline only gets a future version whenever someone timetravels, then that wouldn't work. Should be clear, as then the number of total separate versions of the timeline that exist is equal to the number of times that someone time traveled, which would be much less than uncountably infinite.” DT

We should be fine right? Since when Trunks time traveled it created a past timeline? (Idk anything about low 1-c so I might sound crazy)

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

“If the timeline only gets a future version whenever someone timetravels, then that wouldn't work. Should be clear, as then the number of total separate versions of the timeline that exist is equal to the number of times that someone time traveled, which would be much less than uncountably infinite.” DT

We should be fine right? Since when Trunks time traveled it created a past timeline? (Idk anything about low 1-c so I might sound crazy)

Yes, I think it creates a different past or another parallel world with different time flow and different history

 

[Padaruyos]

In Canon this basically only affects Zeno right? Everyone below him is still 2-C

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

I think it's joever. I think the revision is gonna affect tier 1 DB

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

In Canon this basically only affects Zeno right? Everyone below him is still 2-C

Arale and Zen'ō

 

[Padaruyos]

I think it's joever. I think the revision is gonna affect tier 1 DB

What revision?

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

What revision?

Some dude made a spite revision that might end up going through or something.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

What revision?

Re:evulation of temporal dimension standards

So the flow of time in different universes can be very independent while they have the same time axis. So other than R>F where one is fictionalized in depiction, what would count as an orthogonal timestream if even an independent time flow could be within the same axis?

vsbattles.com

 

[JirensMom]

Rip Low 1-C db. See y’all when Daima confirms H-1A DB

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I still don't understand what's going on '-'

 

[Killerdrone123]

So is it finished or we have some chances

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

@Reiner saved or are we back to the void?

 

[Ednaxel2]

Should we try upgrading Infinite Zamasu and other high tier characters by arguing for him actually fusing with the timeline? If it works out they'll scale to 36 Universes and if the hypertimeline scaling gets accepted they'll be Low 1-C

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Should we try upgrading Infinite Zamasu and other high tier characters by arguing for him actually fusing with the timeline? If it works out they'll scale to 36 Universes and if the hypertimeline scaling gets accepted they'll be Low 1-C

No, IZ doesn't scale to the full timeline, just Universe 7

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Also if that revision thread goes through then I think tier 1 DB might not happen because the standards changed again

 

[Padaruyos]

Does Zeno scale to Low 1-C at least? Or did he only delete U7 instead of the whole timeline.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Because the defaults can't be that easy, I really don't like tier 1

 

[Hasty12345]

how do we know he deleted the hypertimeline when the time machine could still travel to that dimension?

 

[Ednaxel2]

No, IZ doesn't scale to the full timeline, just Universe 7

Ryu made a good blog backing that up

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Does Zeno scale to Low 1-C at least? Or did he only delete U7 instead of the whole timeline.

He completely deleted the entire line lol

 

[Ednaxel2]

how do we know he deleted the hypertimeline when the time machine could still travel to that dimension?

Time rings could represent the whole timeline, either way even if he just fused with the other macrocosms he'd still scale to those 36 universes

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

how do we know he deleted the hypertimeline when the time machine could still travel to that dimension?

Bulma stated the Time Machine took you to a different timeline. Why that’s significant is, time machines require a path of time (hence why time travel could be considered an anti-feat for a timeless void) but dimensional travel between timelines utilizes the 5-D path between space-times.

 

[Hasty12345]

so how did the time machine get to the dimension if there was no dimension 6D void?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

how do we know he deleted the hypertimeline when the time machine could still travel to that dimension?

You can very well read this crt I made about Zen'ō deleting the complete line, and the answer is all there.

Zen'ō Special Edition

Zen'oh erased the timeline completely, the time ring is gone, the time machine only has that name, but Bulma asked pillaf to add a dimensional plug to the machine, which makes it travel anywhere regardless of time and space. Dimensional plug that bypassed time travel that happens to be...

vsbattles.com

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Time rings could represent the whole timeline, either way even if he just fused with the other macrocosms he'd still scale to those 36 universes

But it represents, uh, destroyed ring destroyed timeline

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Dude I'm just so f'ing tired. Is tier 1 DB gonna get canned or not because of the revision thread? It's not a good sign when the standards are so messy not even the mods can fully understand it without getting one specific modes opinion.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Dude I'm just so f'ing tired. Is tier 1 DB gonna get canned or not because of the revision thread? It's not a good sign when the standards are so messy not even the mods can fully understand it without getting one specific modes opinion.

The shit is so confusing some of dt comments were supporting our case I think

 

[Hasty12345]

But it represents, uh, destroyed ring destroyed timeline

this scan you said in the CRT doesn't say what you think it does, it actually proves my point that it can only travel to points that have time.



This scan also doesn't say what you claim it does, it only says the time rings allow for time travel


but ig the rest seems fine, it's clear the arc wasn't thought out to well.

 

[AwkguyDB]

It’s weird while DDT seemingly agrees with the OP, he is also stating that what we have now is fine too I’m like beyond confused

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

So is DT the arbiter of tier 1?