All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

[Nullflowerblush]

freeza would go for the kill, but not overboard

Curious. What exactly is "not overboard" for Frieza? As far as I know, "not overboard" for Frieza is not blowing up the planet.
He throws out Death Beams like candies.

 

[Omegabronic]

The profiles don't say the opponent can't act

they do tho, hence why he simply not attacking makes the oponent unable to attack, because it is his turn and not the enemy's

• Limited Law Manipulation (Over the course of his battle with Chara, Sans has been shown to break and manipulate the battle mechanics of the Undertale world. Some examples are: Attacking while the player is on the menu, being the only monster that actually starts the battle with his turn, making an unavoidable attack after Chara spares him, manipulating the fight box to make it longer, and infinitely extending his turn, making the opponent unable to attack him given it's not their turn yet.[1] It should be noted however that Sans can only "infinitely extend" his turn by not executing his turn at all, and thus he presumably won't be able to do any attacks until he does so)

KARMA and soul attacks are the dura neg bruh. They have to hit someone with a soul

this shows me that you didn't read the profile, Karma is not soul based at all:

• Durability Negation and Status Effect Inducement (Sans is able to inflict KARMA with each attack, a type of poison effect which whittles the opponents HP down overtime.[1] KARMA is heavily implied to affect even Flowey despite lacking a SOUL[3])

Cryo already pointed out that characters can react to ki attacks which scale above their travel speed

why does travel speed matters for a match that is equalized in combat speed?

Because Sans is a monster, not like a normal being.

Sans is just about as a monster as any alien, or animal people, or mummy, ghosts, etc, that Goku has encountered, he is nowhere threatening enough in his appearence, have you not read any of OG db?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

• Durability Negation and Status Effect Inducement (Sans is able to inflict KARMA with each attack, a type of poison effect which whittles the opponents HP down overtime.[1] KARMA is heavily implied to affect even Flowey despite lacking a SOUL[3])

Holy shit what do you not understand about "the attack has to hit a person"

 

[Nullflowerblush]

have you not read any of OG db?

talk about irony.

 

[Omegabronic]

Curious. What exactly is "not overboard" for Frieza? As far as I know, "not overboard" for Frieza is not blowing up the planet.
He throws out Death Beams like candies.

yeah, what i meant is, as far as we have saw, he wouldn't start with City busting AOE against someone he knows is far weaker than him, specially in the thread that he was a mere 1 meter away from Sans

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

have you not read any of OG db?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Holy shit what do you not understand about "the attack has to hit a person"

Also blud I specifically mentioned KARMA and soul attacks separately because I knew that for a fact

 

[TheGreatBanana]

What stops dbz characters..from just flexing thier aura? We know that flexing one's aura causes fear [to really weak enemies] and can stop/destroy weaker attacks. Why can't they just let out thier aura and make all of sans attacks ...disappear. Also ki sensing allows you to see characters faster than you and the after image can even fool characters that are faster than you. Plus...didn't goku use his prediction in base to counter hit...ya know, the person who can blitz and one shot SSB vegeta.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Curious. What exactly is "not overboard" for Frieza? As far as I know, "not overboard" for Frieza is not blowing up the planet.
He throws out Death Beams like candies.

He can also just glare and be done with it. Frieza should have zero qualms about doing that too

 

[TheGreatBanana]

He can also just glare and be done with it. That really does not sound out of character for Frieza

Frieza legit only has to breath to create tornados or glare to vaporize mountains.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

yeah, what i meant is, as far as we have saw, he wouldn't start with City busting AOE against someone he knows is far weaker than him, specially in the thread that he was a mere 1 meter away from Sans

His starting move on ANY target (including Namekian children) is the Death Beam, which IS the city-destroying AoE.

 

[Omegabronic]

Cool. Sans has a horrible limitation where once he finishes his attack he'll let his opponent act because he adheres to Undertale mechanics.

yeah, so is the oponent

Nothing states that Sans can force that onto other characters though.

why do you think that the Law manip is there in the first place?

So either your argument of 'turns' means nothing because Sans can't enforce those rules or it means Sans is horribly limited in the actions he can take because he is operating on a turn-based system while his opponent isn't.

both of them are fighting in those rules, sans forces frisk to follows the rules he manipulates in the game

Black lets himself get hit against WORTHWHILE OPPONENTS

he didn't care enough to dodge or block the bullets and bombs of the human resistance in the future timeline

Just like Goku if they're not worth his time he won't even humor the idea

in goku's case he will most likely try and neck chop to make Sans go unconcious, altho with Sans' higher reactions and the Law hax making him attack first, that will be hard to do

talk about irony.

but i did tho

 

[Spinoirr]

Goku Black's whole kink is getting hit.

Then Vegeta got this kink

 

[Omegabronic]

Holy shit what do you not understand about "the attack has to hit a person"

you said that they had to hit someone with a Soul, you never said that they need to hit a person only, but for that i ask, where did you get that limitation from?

What stops dbz characters..from just flexing thier aura? We know that flexing one's aura causes fear [to really weak enemies]

not accepted in the profiles currently

and can stop/destroy weaker attacks.

also not accepted in the profiles currently

Why can't they just let out thier aura and make all of sans attacks ...disappear.

i still need scans of that being a thing that their aura do passively

Also ki sensing allows you to see characters faster than you

true, but would any of them even try to dodge at first against 9-B attacks?

and the after image can even fool characters that are faster than you.

why would goku use after images in the very begining of the fight?

Plus...didn't goku use his prediction in base to counter hit...ya know, the person who can blitz and one shot SSB vegeta.

why is everyone assuming that goku will take Sans seriously enough to try and predict his attacks to dodge everything that he trows in the begining? He can feel that Sans is 9-B, in his mind sans is just some fodder who can do nothing against him

His starting move on ANY target (including Namekian children) is the Death Beam, which IS the city-destroying AoE.

since when is every death beam that he trows that big?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

you said that they had to hit someone with a Soul, you never said that they need to hit a person only, but for that i ask, where did you get that limitation from?

If a status effect inducing attack gets blocked by a barrier it's not gonna induce the status effect

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

not accepted in the profiles currently

release ki

9-B attacks destroyed

 

[Omegabronic]

If a status effect inducing attack gets blocked it's not gonna induce the status effect

.....you are still getting hit when you block something, it inflicts the stat by simply touching any of the attacks

release ki

9-B attacks destroyed

.....still can't see this "aura passively attacks all that comes into it, therefore weaker attacks are destroyed" thing in the profiles

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

.....you are still getting hit when you block something, it inflicts the stat by simply touching any of the attacks

barrier

.....still can't see this "aura passively attacks all that comes into it, therefore weaker attacks are destroyed" thing in the profiles

he didn't say shit about anything being passive he said "flexes aura" that is an action

 

[Fezzih_007]

Sans is just about as a monster as any alien, or animal people, or mummy, ghosts, etc, that Goku has encountered, he is nowhere threatening enough in his appearence,

And Goku Go to the kill against this, yeah.
And Sans is evil anyway, so Goku would Go for the kill.

have you not read any of OG db?

 

[TheGreatBanana]

you said that they had to hit someone with a Soul, you never said that they need to hit a person only, but for that i ask, where did you get that limitation from?


not accepted in the profiles currently


also not accepted in the profiles currently


i still need scans of that being a thing that their aura do passively


true, but would any of them even try to dodge at first against 9-B attacks?


why would goku use after images in the very begining of the fight?


why is everyone assuming that goku will take Sans seriously enough to try and predict his attacks to dodge everything that he trows in the begining? He can feel that Sans is 9-B, in his mind sans is just some fodder who can do nothing against him


since when is every death beam that he trows that big?

If goku senses that sans is fodder then he'll throw a blast at him and boom.
Also, Why would ki destroying weaker attacks needs to be accepted? it's literally just an energy feat that anynone with higher AP can do...

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

And Goku Go to the kill against this, yeah.
And Sans is evil anyway, so Goku would Go for the kill.

Might wanna reword that to "Goku can sense his killing intent"

 

[Fezzih_007]

Might wanna reword that to "Goku can sense his killing intent"

That too.

 

[Omegabronic]

barrier

yeah.......i said in reference to that

he didn't say shit about anything being passive he said "flexes aura" that is an action

so his aura existing does make the effect, he has to actually "flex it"? still, can't see reference to this in the profiles still

And Goku Go to the kill against this, yeah.

proof? he is very well acostumed against weird looking people

And Sans is evil anyway, so Goku would Go for the kill.

Sans is not evil tho

don't look too much into it, it was supposed to be a joke, i shouldn't practice it more

If goku senses that sans is fodder then he'll throw a blast at him and boom.

goku instantly kill people that are fodder to him? he didn't do that against the robbers that tried to rob him

Also, Why would ki destroying weaker attacks needs to be accepted?

not the ki, the ki that is not launched as an attack but only as the aura around them, that needs

it's literally just an energy feat that anynone with higher AP can do...

they can project the ki in an offenssive manner through it yeah, but it doesn't do that passively with the aura alone

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

yeah.......i said in reference to that

Explain how KARMA is gonna come into effect if an attack is stopped by a barrier

and don't even say dura neg again because I've pointed out for the life of me that the dura neg is that KARMA is applied when the attack hits a person

 

[Fezzih_007]

Sans is not evil tho

Well, he did say he would kill Frisk If he din't make that promise to Toriel, so i think he is evil because of that.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Well, he did say he would kill Frisk If he din't make that promise to Toriel, so i think he is evil because of that.

does not necessarily mean evil

 

[TheGreatBanana]

yeah.......i said in reference to that


so his aura existing does make the effect, he has to actually "flex it"? still, can't see reference to this in the profiles still


proof? he is very well acostumed against weird looking people


Sans is not evil tho

don't look too much into it, it was supposed to be a joke, i shouldn't practice it more


goku instantly kill people that are fodder to him? he didn't do against the robbers that tried to rob him


not the ki, the ki that is not launched as an attack but only as the aura around them, that needs


they can project the ki in an offenssive manner through it yeah, but it doesn't do that passively with the aura alone

Uh...when did i say its a passive thing? I'm pretty sure i said goku needs to just flex his ki. Not that it's passive.

 

[Omegabronic]

Uh...when did i say its a passive thing? I'm pretty sure i said goku needs to just flex his ki. Not that it's passive.

From the way some people said i thought that it is a passive thing witg the auras, pardon me on that part then

Explain how KARMA is gonna come into effect if an attack is stopped by a barrier

and don't even say dura neg again because I've pointed out for the life of me that the dura neg is that KARMA is applied when the attack hits a person

Yeah.....it would apply to tge barrier itself, that is what i said

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Goku is fighting with the intent to kill.

 

[Fezzih_007]

does not necessarily mean evil

In my perspective, It does.

Killing a random child.

 

[Dragonite007]

Goku is fighting with the intent to kill.

"State of mind: In character, but will attempt to win the battle."

 

[Omegabronic]

In my perspective, It does.

Killing a random child.

A child that has they kay to free his entire race and that he knows could be the anomaly that is making his life have no meaning since it resets everything all the time

 

[Dragonite007]

You all are arguing about Sans and 2-C DB

When we can do Goku vs Kris

 

[Omegabronic]

You all are arguing about Sans and 2-C DB

When we can do Goku vs Kris

......i foresee danger approaching

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

You all are arguing about Sans and 2-C DB

When we can do Goku vs Kris

How about db vs a new verse? Or someone tier 2 as well

 

[Dragonite007]

How about db vs a new verse? Or someone tier 2 as well

Goku vs Tanjiro

 

[Nullflowerblush]

"State of mind: In character, but will attempt to win the battle."

In character, when attempting to kill, Goku does not hold back.

 

[Dragonite007]

In character, when attempting to kill, Goku does not hold back.

attempting to win =/= attempting to kill

 

[CryoTheMayo]

no it isn't, enforcing it into other people is what he does in the game

I don't even need to waste my time on anything else. Prove that Sans can enforce Undertale rules onto other characters from other verses.

 

[Fezzih_007]

A child that has they kay to free his entire race

Which he don't particually care in doing so

and that he knows could be the anomaly that is making his life have no meaning since it resets everything all the time

He just met them, how he would know that?

Stillz the justification don't mean much, because is Sans willing to kill a child, that still evil.