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What if Goku ended up in DxD and stole Isseis harem
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My personal theory is that SSB is only possible because they fully mastered Super Saiyan back in the cell saga (MSSJ). Considering how SSB supposedly requires perfect ki control I think the SS component of SSB (since it's SSG + SS) would also need to be 100% efficient and fully mastered for SSB to be possible. SSB2 would require Goku fully mastering SS2 like he did with SS back in the cell saga.There’s needs to be a SSB2. Ain’t no way Goku/Vegeta can’t do that
I could had sworn he also did that as well in the animeMy personal theory is that SSB is only possible because they fully mastered Super Saiyan back in the cell saga (MSSJ). Considering how SSB supposedly requires perfect ki control I think the SS component of SSB (since it's SSG + SS) would also need to be 100% efficient and fully mastered for SSB to be possible. SSB2 would require Goku fully mastering SS2 like he did with SS back in the cell saga.
She never said this she just said that the increase was 10’s of time more than before that doesn’t mean that’s the actual formulaWhy is Six still using the A*B as an increase for Potara? Vados said it's (A+B)10(x+1).
I mean, narratively, has A*B ever been depicted or stated in the manga or anime?She never said this she just said that the increase was 10’s of time more than before that doesn’t mean that’s the actual formula
A*B makes the most sense in super and Zprobably because it is strange thought huh
Ngl I never seen people assume that was the actual formula until I went on VSB
That wasn't probably serious tbh, goku was likely just yapping, if he thought it would make him weaker for real, he wouldn't have actually got ready to throw it to himThen Goku also thinks fusing with Hurcle will make him weaker.
I mean the boost makes sense from the depictions we see and yes in the toei anime the A*B is statedI mean, narratively, has A*B ever been depicted or stated in the manga or anime?
I always find it weird how they can overcome Merged Zamasu in mere moments, which would require a sudden boost of like billions of times superior, yet Kaioken giving a spontaneous boost of 10-20x is treated godlike within the verse, despite them supposedly overcoming differences of a billion in mere seconds.
Then Goku also thinks fusing with Hurcle will make him weaker.
He was serious, he was just desperate and didn’t know what to do.That wasn't probably serious tbh, goku was likely just yapping, if he thought it would make him weaker for real, he wouldn't have actually got ready to throw it to him
I mean the boost makes sense from the depictions we see and yes in the toei
When?
I was referring to either the manga or Dbs anime.anime the A*B is stated
Agreed.Also the power creeps in super are bad I’m ngl
Oh dbs anime there hasn’t been a statement for the formula of fusion unlike toei anime iirc but technically it’s the in the same multiverse and there’s no statement in the DBS anime Or Manga from what I’m aware ofHe was serious, he was just desperate and didn’t know what to do.
I was referring to either the manga or Dbs anime.
Agreed.
IIRC it was "added together and then significantly magnified" which would make sense with the (A+B)*n*10 multiplier.Dbs broly says their power is added together and then some. Matches with Vados statement tbh.
I mean the fusion multiplier being the series‘s power level still makes sense with the examples you give below but yeah the increases are pretty highI think A*B multiplier is somewhat valid if it's not used with the series's power level system. A 150 million times boost is utterly insane considering SS 3G's 10x increase and Kaio-Ken's up to 20x increase are treated as game changer amps. But if we treat A and B as Unknown variables rather than actual numbers (with power levels) it could make some sense. For example, let's say Goku and Vegeta, as A and B have a power value of 10, their fusion would be 100. In the next Arc, Goku and Vegeta are now 100, their fusion now would be 10000. What's previously a 10x increase is now a 100x increase. Using this logic (A and B being unknown variables rather than actual power level numbers) makes some sense within the series, the fusion multiplier increases as the fusees's strength increases. (Buu Saga SS3 Vegito would get crushed by Beerus and SSG Goku while FT Arc Base Vegito would steamroll Blue Goku)
Dbs broly says their power is added together and then some. Matches with Vados statement tbh.
The Broly movie says that their powers aren’t just added together but they’re significantly magnifiedIIRC it was "added together and then significantly magnified" which would make sense with the (A+B)*n*10 multiplier.
Prove that, he wouldn't of bothered if it were trueHe was serious, he was just desperate and didn’t know what to do.
Prove what? Goku literally said he had no choice and hurcle was so weak his power would probably drop. There’s nothing to prove, it’s literally stated.Prove that, he wouldn't of bothered if it were true
Meh. I bet SSJ2 is is actually more then just 2x SSJ. I can understand not going SSB3 but SSB2 is very much possible- YouTube
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he would have just been better off fighting buu without fusion dude, why would he willingly make himself into a weaker fighter?Prove what? Goku literally said he had no choice and hurcle was so weak his power would probably drop. There’s nothing to prove, it’s literally stated.
Using wiki multipliers SSB2 would be more than 10x SS. Which might not be more than SSBKK which is 20x SSB at most. And SSB2 might be too unstable to use Kaioken with it.Meh. I bet SSJ2 is is actually more then just 2x SSJ. I can understand not going SSB3 but SSB2 is very much possible
Yeah but how do we even know if that multiplier isn’t real? we r going based on scans and deductions. Not only that the 50x was when SSJ wasn’t mastered but now that we have MSSJ, it could give an even bigger multipler. Let’s not forget that Grade 4 SSJ is WAY better then Ascended SSJ and could be as strong as Grace 3 SSJUsing wiki multipliers SSB2 would be more than 10x SS. Which might not be more than SSBKK which is 20x SSB at most. And SSB2 might be too unstable to use Kaioken with it.
Nah we consider MSSJ = SSJ. Same increase, but more efficient.Yeah but how do we even know if that multiplier isn’t real? we r going based on scans and deductions. Not only that the 50x was when SSJ wasn’t mastered but now that we have MSSJ, it could give an even bigger multipler. Let’s not forget that Grade 4 SSJ is WAY better then Ascended SSJ and could be as strong as Grace 3 SSJ
Well ya keep going by VSB standards lol. Imo, MSSJ gives a better stat increase since Goku and even Gohan did well against Perfect Cell. Heck Trunks and Vegeta literally went back into HTB because of them sensing MSSJ powers meaning Grade 4 => Grade 3 >> Ascended SSJNah we consider MSSJ = SSJ. Same increase, but more efficient.
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Iirc, there are some fanfictions like this out there on internetWhat if Goku ended up in DxD and stole Isseis harem
Iirc, there are some fanfictions like this out there on internet
Same multiverse matters very little for stuff like thatOh dbs anime there hasn’t been a statement for the formula of fusion unlike toei anime iirc but technically it’s the in the same multiverse and there’s no statement in the DBS anime Or Manga from what I’m aware of
I check fanfiction often, especially crossover one, reading Dragon Ball x DxD is pretty good, also Nasuverse x DxDWait how would you know that?
She said it was bigger than the sum part of both people increased tens of times.She never said this she just said that the increase was 10’s of time more than before that doesn’t mean that’s the actual formula
A*B makes the most sense in super and Zprobably because it is strange thought huh
Ngl I never seen people assume that was the actual formula until I went on VSB
This kinda proves it. "just" and "they" are the key words. They refer to their collective PL.The Broly movie says that their powers aren’t just added together but they’re significantly magnified
Indeed there is. It’s quite lovely or cringeIirc, there are some fanfictions like this out there on internet
Most are cringe as ****, and more like those fanfic writers wet dream, write character extremely out of character, like some fanfic write Rias (DxD) fell in love with Goku because Goku look muscular, ******* hell. But there are some extremely good written fanfic that have actual character development and reasonable, in character, but those fanfic is short......Indeed there is. It’s quite lovely or cringe
Well since it’s DxD and fanfic authors sometimes write cringey shit, it’s pretty much expected to look like that lol. I can’t read something about Goku going to school and then being way too OOC for my taste. Hell even if Gohan was used I just can’t see itMost are cringe as ****, and more like those fanfic writers wet dream, write character extremely out of character, like some fanfic write Rias (DxD) fell in love with Goku because Goku look muscular, ******* hell. But there are some extremely good written fanfic that have actual character development and reasonable, in character, but those fanfic is short......
It's from Super Exciting GuideV-Jump isn't realiable or something?