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Nah nah nah, let him cook. We can watch the fireworks later.
Goku’s pretty strong but I think Goku takes this one fsIf I wanted to make Ultra God Mission Xeno vs DBH Goku, who would it be a stomp in favor of
If I wanted to make Ultra God Mission Xeno vs DBH Goku, who would it be a stomp in favor of
Idk gonna have to disagree. Goku prolly bodies here.Goku’s pretty strong but I think Goku takes this one fs
I can't tell if you're joking or not. 3 days ago I learned that 2-A has "layers" and that apparently even characters with 2-A durability can still be one shot by other characters with 2-A attacksDBH Goku would take it because Ultra God Mission Xeno Goku is just from one specific instance while DBH Goku would composite every Goku that ever appeared in DBH with Ultra God Mission Xeno Goku being included in that composition
Wdym?It’s a dumb belief. Imo, the fusees are just strong enough for the multiplier to surpass their strongest forms, but the ability itself doesn’t make them superior to their peak
MUI being stronger than Gogeta is just poop.
Doesn't Vegeta's profile also have a victory against base Gogeta as well? Should someone request for it to be removed?Btw, now that we accept that "fusions base >> fusees peak in any form" then wouldn't we need to rethink the scaling a little bit? Like, bow MUI goku has no reason to scale to gogeta blue, since he would be superior to goku in any form due to how fusions work in db
Doesn't Vegeta's profile also have a victory against base Gogeta as well? Should someone request for it to be removed?
The belief is the fusion technique always makes the fusion superior to the fusees peak.
So Base Gogeta>>> Peak Goku and Vegeta because how the ability works. But this can easily be explained by their base being high enough for the outcome to surpass their other forms.
base Goku and Vegeta is a 1,000 ssj is 50x.
Ssj Vegeta and Goku is 50,000.
1,000x1,000= 1,000,000. See what I mean?
I understood very little of what you just saidIt doesn’t work really because potara would increase much faster in power than set multipliers of Super Saiyan forms would allow, making it inconsistent for fusions to require anything beyond base form to handle their opponents
Base post BoG Goku = 250,000 ( SSG multiplier)
Base fusion would be equivalent to that Goku going SSG, SSG Goku could put up a fight against said fusion.
But if Goku were instead 1000x stronger, the base fusion would be 1,000,000x SSG^2 whilst SSG Goku would be 1000x SSG^2 levels, Goku would now require SSBKK20 to put up a fight.
If Goku grows an additional 10x making his base power 10,000x SSG, a base Fusion would exceed the level of SSB KK20 by 10x
Potara amps will always surpass any transformation of Goku because he already reached the level those forms had at one point whilst in base, meaning base potara is up to millions of times SSB*SSB if it’s meant to be a multiplication of both fighters strength.I understood very little of what you just said
now i understand even less, base goku reached the level of his transformed state while doing the fusion.....?Potara amps will always surpass any transformation of Goku because he already reached the level those forms had at one point whilst in base, meaning base potara is up to millions of times SSB*SSB if it’s meant to be a multiplication of both fighters strength.
Ah so he surpassed his previous SSJB state in base meaning the SSB multiplier so if he were to fuse with someone equal to power to him like Vegeta it’d be a SSB*SSB increase?Potara amps will always surpass any transformation of Goku because he already reached the level those forms had at one point whilst in base, meaning base potara is up to millions of times SSB*SSB if it’s meant to be a multiplication of both fighters strength.
but wasn't it that base state of fusions are superior to the peaks of the fusees from the moment the fusion is made?Ah so he surpassed his previous SSJB state in base meaning the SSB multiplier so if he were to fuse with someone equal to power to him like Vegeta it’d be a SSB*SSB increase?
YesAh so he surpassed his previous SSJB state in base meaning the SSB multiplier so if he were to fuse with someone equal to power to him like Vegeta it’d be a SSB*SSB increase?
Because they don't pay attention. Its simple Energy Absorption"It's absurd because they still have SSG afterwords so I don't know why they would be stronger than it. They get SSG, then they absorb it, now they're stronger than it in base but can still go SSG?"
Why do people use this argument?
Shoudn't someone make a thread adressing main argumsnts?Because they don't pay attention. Its simple Energy Absorption
comes with the territory when you have show writers making characters undecillion faster than lightDbz power scalers are some of the best mathematicians I've ever seen
I mean just mention that Goku’s ki can be sensed and that debunks it being actual god ki instead of him absorbing the power and we don’t accept that he didn’t so no point in a crtShoudn't someone make a thread adressing main argumsnts?
Or ge just AD himself to that level, there are multiple logical explanationsI mean just mention that Goku’s ki can be sensed and that debunks it being actual god ki instead of him absorbing the power and we don’t accept that he didn’t so no point in a crt
Nah, pre top chars are still not as stromg as beerus, with beerus straight up still threatening goku and him needing to trick him to go to zenoIsn't this great evidence?
SSJ2 Goku Pwas so powerful against Zamasu. He gets compared to Beerus:
Goku states Zamasu has the potential to to get as strong as Beerus and that the battle reminds him when he fought Beerus
There are many more. Someone should make a blog
I meant rivalNah, pre top chars are still not as stromg as beerus, with beerus straight up still threatening goku and him needing to trick him to go to zeno
Anyone being near a GoD level is still no, freeza, who was comparable to goku at the time, was still pretty much scared of beerusI meant rival
50xHow much stronger is Super Saiyan Blue than Super Saiyan God