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It’s from ssjb kkx20 MUI>ssjb kkx20
Well very outdated like they don’t even account for boosts within arcs
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
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It's funny how I once considered that to be absolutely absurd and impossible but I can't even deny that multiplier anymore.
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Time to trap him in the Time Chamber
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Future Trunks timeline.
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The part that kills me about this is that it's on part 13 
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When what-if channels somehow run out of ideas.
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Base Gogeta is stronger than Blueku and Bluegeta working together. That will be the main argument. Also, the wiki gives Base Gogeta the same speed rating as SSB Goku.
Wiki accepted multipliers:
SS: 50x
SSB: 2500x
KK: up to 20x
Fusion: 2500x
Plain old Super Saiyan is a 50x multiplier, accepted in this wiki.
Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan 3 is a massive increase over Super Saiyan 1, but it's unquantifiable how large it is. Same goes for Super Saiyan God. Which the wiki just treats as >>>50x
Super Saiyan Blue is Super Saiyan God that transforms further into Super Saiyan. So it's a >>>50x multiplier multiplied by 50. We get a bare minimum multiplier of 2500x. We also use this multiplier for Base Gogeta.
Goku can stack Kaioken up to x20 on top of blue. So 2500x times 20 is 50000x. Blue Evolution Vegeta also gets this multiplier.
UIO3 and MUI is considered superior to any other transformation Goku have previously. So that means they're >>>>50000x.
Gogeta can become a Super Saiyan. So the multiplier for him will be 125000x. He can then become a Super Saiyan Blue. Multiplying it by another 50x, we get 6.250.000x. The wiki currently also uses this multiplier for UIO3 and MUI Goku. So take that as you will.
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The multiplier seems to get bigger and bigger as the character grows stronger lmao. So in some way it probably applies.
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Well they don't use it currently, sinc the multiplier blog doesn't have them
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We use them for the speed multipliers blog I think
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I actually find it interesting that all Saiyan forms pass SSJ2 require special conditions in order to be achieved.
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Like how SSJ3 is only achieved where ever time flows differently from the living realm
SSG requires the ritual or specific training to achieve and obviously SSJB is just a stack on
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Like how SSJ3 is only achieved where ever time flows differently from the living realm
SSG requires the ritual or specific training to achieve and obviously SSJB is just a stack on
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So the naturally strongest form a Saiyan can achieve by themselves is SS2.
Maybe SS4 if a Saiyan is skilled enough to master both SS and Oozaru.
Huh, imagine that. An entire planet filled with either SS2s or SS4s
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SS3 is the weirdest form of the bunch. The only two known users are Goku and Gotenks. Goku achieved it by training in unnatural conditions (the otherworld), Gotenks can only achieve it due to being a fusion created with a magical technique.
It's not powered by rage either since Vegeta's "MY BULMA!" moment didn't awaken SS3, yet just the rage boost is enough to surpass Goku's SS3 with SS2.
It's not powered by rage either since Vegeta's "MY BULMA!" moment didn't awaken SS3, yet just the rage boost is enough to surpass Goku's SS3 with SS2.
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That's not a requirement
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Goku seems to imply that in his conversation with Piccolo on the lookout how SSJ3 was never meant to be used outside the afterlife specifically because time flows differently which would also explain Gotenks
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I remember goku stated that there is no time in the afterlife
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i mean, yellow never had a reason to be the default tbh
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which makes no sense whatsoever, like, time passes while he is there, like, tf?
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yeah I know, but there are 2 mentions that there is no time in the afterlife, obviously time exists in that dimension, which means that time in the other world is just different, another space time.
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I mean sure but at least the rest of the forms follow that after. Red was kinda random
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if the statement is that there is no time, then how could it possibly mean that it is a different space-TIME? i honestly can't understand how this can be an interpretation at all
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goku was pink tho, kind of, i see ssj4 as more of an oozaru 2.0 rather than a ssj form tbh
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Pink? What? Isn't it like a combination of SSJ and Great Ape technically
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thats what led to SSJ4
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It looks more red. But maybe when he's powering up or getting energy it looks lighter. Vegeta is definitely red
You get SSJ4 when you control the Golden Great Ape which is mix with a SSJ and Great Ape
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oh yeah, vegeta's red red, almost tomato red
yeah, but by that association, i think that Golden oozaru = ssj1 + oozaru, as such ssj4 = oozaru evolution, since it shares almost nothing in traits with normal ssj forms, it looks more primal then mistycal, you know?
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I recall that HTC has similar mentions of having no concepts of time and space, and is considered another spacetime, so thinking of it as another space-time continuum is a totally possible interpretation I think.
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No. No concepts of time and space stuff isn't taken like that. It's still a seperate space time though.
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not in the main show no, it is only ever said that times passes faster there
i really don't see how, it is saying that there is no time, period, how could it be another space time without time? how can that possibly be an interpretation?
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IIRC Ben 10 has something similar with null void. But the no time with afterlife just is blatantly wrong as it was referring to how no one ages.
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nah, it is the oposite, the null void has different time progression, nothing is ever said about it having no time there
exactly
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Don't take it so literally, it could simply mean that time just works differently.
Maybe, but he makes the comment in question when he talks about how the ssj3 drains his energy into the living world, so idk
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Yea i was more referencing stamina cuz they're dead. But they're dead.
