Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Sir_Marvulous]

When can't use those Multipliers sadly.

They weren't used cuz of inconsistent portrayal. Gohan was at less than half power during the final struggle against Super Perfect Cell, meaning he should be at his mere Super Saiyan level, yet miraculously was able to bulldoze the latter's strongest attack by releasing every last bit of his remaining power

However, it appears Super Saiyan 3 seems pretty fair

 

[AguilaR202]

When can't use those Multipliers sadly.

SS1 50 times multiplier is used because it has showings that corroborate it, the reason we don’t use the others is due to lack of showings.

 

[luis3333]

a middle question from heroes mentions that beat is a descendant of goku

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

They weren't used cuz of inconsistent portrayal. Gohan was at less than half power during the final struggle against Super Perfect Cell, meaning he should be at his mere Super Saiyan level, yet miraculously was able to bulldoze the latter's strongest attack by releasing every last bit of his remaining power

However, it appears Super Saiyan 3 seems pretty fair

i thought Gohan only managed to overpower Cell once Vegeta distracted him?

 

[Braking]

ye

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

i thought Gohan only managed to overpower Cell once Vegeta distracted him?

No, vegeta didn't affect cell at all. He motivated gohan.

 

[AguilaR202]

Also what do people make of this

to cancel out the physical and Ki attacks of their opponents one must emit ki at least twice that of the opponents.

shouldnt this be accounted for in scaling whenever characters take no discernible damage from attacks?

It’s not like it creates any notable inconsistencies as those kind of feats are few and far between and a 2x increase in value through scaling doesn’t bump them past the level of the accepted feats and statements of stronger characters

ie imperfect cell tanking an attack by piccolo who is ~400 tenatons becomes 800 tenatons
Semi perfect cell who tanks 16 who matched his semi perfect form becomes 1600 tenatons

 

[BOEGVELD]

It’s not like it creates any notable inconsistencies

Base Goku blocking attacks from Gas says hi, lol.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

shouldnt this be accounted for in scaling whenever characters take no discernible damage from attacks?

It’s not like it creates any notable inconsistencies as those kind of feats are few and far between and a 2x increase in value through scaling doesn’t bump them past the level of the accepted feats and statements of stronger characters

ie imperfect cell tanking an attack by piccolo who is ~400 tenatons becomes 800 tenatons
Semi perfect cell who tanks 16 who matched his semi perfect form becomes 1600 tenatons

The Wiki, at present, does not allow the use of multipliers from supplementary sources unless said multipliers are substantiated by the original manga (e.g., Super Saiyan).

 

[Aachintya31]

hell no bruh

the bog feat only was stated to be able to destroy the afterlife and shiz. not the author world. (how many times i got to say this???)

What's with this author world thing.
Arale considers his cosmology a manga/piece of fiction.
Her Dimensionality should scale +1 above the Dr. Slump cosmology which should upscale the entire DB cosmology
Ezpz

 

[Braking]

What's with this author world thing.
Arale considers his cosmology a manga/piece of fiction.
Her Dimensionality should scale +1 above the Dr. Slump cosmology which should upscale the entire DB cosmology
Ezpz

Yea but the bog feat had nothin to do with the author shit.
Plus like you and i said. It will bump the cosmology to 5d but no one in dragon ball would scale to it. just like that.

 

[Aachintya31]

Yea but the bog feat had nothin to do with the author shit.
Plus like you and i said. It will bump the cosmology to 5d but no one in dragon ball would scale to it. just like that.

the universe becomes 5D so does the destruction feat or I may be missing something.

 

[Braking]

the universe becomes 5D so does the destruction feat or I may be missing something.

Oh my gawd bruh

Dawg the author world is not part of the universe. Its a higher plane of existance.

 

[Aachintya31]

Oh my gawd bruh

Dawg the author world is not part of the universe. Its a higher plane of existance.

Ok I have no idea about author world

 

[Braking]

Ok I have no idea about author world

Here

 

[Aachintya31]

What tier is destroying 3D matter of two infinite sized dimensions along with a space-time barrier that separates the two dimensions?

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

What tier is destroying 3D matter of two infinite sized dimensions along with a space-time barrier that separates the two dimensions?

High 3-A. The entire space time of both dimensions needs to be destroyed to count for anything higher but you specified 3D matter.

 

[Aachintya31]

High 3-A. The entire space time of both dimensions needs to be destroyed to count for anything higher but you specified 3D matter.

Hmm.I thought destruction of 3D matter of two or more universes simultaneously accounted for 2-C

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Hmm.I thought destruction of 3D matter of two or more universes simultaneously accounted for 2-C

Destruction of two entire universe not just the 3D matter. Destroying a universe does not entail the destruction of it's space time, it needs to be specified while destroying two universes always includes space time unless shown otherwise like in your example.

 

[Aachintya31]

Destruction of two entire universe not just the 3D matter. Destroying a universe does not entail the destruction of it's space time, it needs to be specified while destroying two universes always includes space time unless shown otherwise like in your example.

Ok got it thanks.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

When affecting two separate universes, regardless of whether time is explicitly mentioned, the idea is that: in order to cross the "distance" between the two, one would also need to breach the temporal axis; otherwise, their attack would not travel beyond their universe of origin.

 

[Aachintya31]

When affecting two separate universes, regardless of whether time is explicitly mentioned, the idea is that: in order to cross the "distance" between the two, one would also need to breach the temporal axis; otherwise, their attack would not travel beyond their universe of origin.

What if ROSAT was universal in size and if BOG feat reached there would it be considered 2-C?

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Y

What if ROSAT was universal in size and if BOG feat reached there would it be considered 2-C?

es

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

why goku and Raditz still does not have fate hax?

 

[Aachintya31]

why goku and Raditz still does not have fate hax?

Cerealian Shenron should have Fate hax not the duo.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

you think if i went and calculated every notable lifting strength feat in the entire series and found that they were significantly below class k, people would still try and argue that that one calculation that goku scales to isn't an outlier

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

you think if i went and calculated every notable lifting strength feat in the entire series and found that they were significantly below class k, people would still try and argue that that one calculation that goku scales to isn't an outlier

There are four class M calculations in the series.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

you think if i went and calculated every notable lifting strength feat in the entire series and found that they were significantly below class k, people would still try and argue that that one calculation that goku scales to isn't an outlier

Probably. Though if characters stronger than Kid Goku by several orders of magnitudes have Anti-Feats below Class K then arguing Goku’s single feat is an outlier should be EZ

 

[Nullflowerblush]

There are four class M calculations in the series.

One of them was downgraded to Class K.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Cooler and Metal Cooler should be separated, no?

 

[Braking]

Cooler and Metal Cooler should be separated, no?

i feel like they should

 

[Spinoirr]

you think if i went and calculated every notable lifting strength feat in the entire series and found that they were significantly below class k, people would still try and argue that that one calculation that goku scales to isn't an outlier

I have a imgur for all lifting feats in the granolah saga

 

[Aachintya31]

Is null realmn a void (place without space-time).

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Yes

Is null realmn a void (place without space-time).

 

[Aachintya31]

Yes

Interestingly how did characters like master roshi and others were able to sense the shaking of the empty space and characters like hit use time based powers.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

hit use time based powers.

Hit create Time and space or when the Daishinkan says that it had no space or time it was before the tournament where he filled it with these concepts as well as oxygen and gravity

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Time can still exist even if spacetime is destroyed.

 

[Aachintya31]

Time can still exist even if spacetime is destroyed.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

It’s way simpler than you think.

 

[Aachintya31]

It’s way simpler than you think.

How ?