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in the movie im highly certain that it was stated that Hedo took the blueprints for cell and just highly enhance the shitHmm, should Cell max also have OG Cell’s Class G telekinesis since he is an improved variation of the latter? The only thing that wasn’t finished was his mind so it is basically an out of character move
Cell Max was designed using the blueprints for the original Cell as a blueprint; however, Cell Max is never stated or implied to possess the same biological material as the original. Cell received its regenerative abilities, which Cell Max lacks, from Piccolo, and Cell received its telekinetic abilities from Frieza. Cell Max also appears to be more mechanical than the original Cell, who was entirely synthetic.Hmm, should Cell max also have OG Cell’s Class G telekinesis since he is an improved variation of the latter? The only thing that wasn’t finished was his mind so it is basically an out of character move
Base Gohan and Piccolo <<< SSJ Gohan = Ultimate Piccolo < Moro Arc Blue Evolved Vegeta = Gamma 1 & 2 < Rage Amped Ultimate Gohan < Current Goku and Vegeta = Orange Piccolo < < Gamma 2's suicide attack < Cell Max = Broly < Gohan Beastsomeone summarise the scaling for Gohan?
Thank you very muchBase Gohan and Piccolo <<< SSJ Gohan = Ultimate Piccolo < Moro Arc Blue Evolved Vegeta = Gamma 1 & 2 < Rage Amped Ultimate Gohan < Current Goku and Vegeta = Orange Piccolo < < Gamma 2's suicide attack < Cell Max = Broly < Gohan Beast
Statements:
1) Gamma 1 and 2 are potentially on Goku Vegeta level. Probably refered to the Moro Arc since Moro Arc Battle data input was used to create them and that was also Piccolo's last update
2) Piccolo was said to be on par with Goku and Vegeta. Probably refering to their current form.
3) Cell Max is a Broly-level threat and Gohan is stronger than that
Conclusion: Gamma 1 and 2 and Gohan : 3A, likely Low 2C ;
Piccolo , Cell Max and Gohan Beast low 2c
Based on what?Current Goku and Vegeta = Orange Piccolo
Toriyama: "I am glad that he finally obtained battle power on par with Goku and Co"Based on what?
Oof forgot about that….so with that then where should they now be scaling?
How is Gamma 2's suicide attack lower than Cell Max when it both destroyed his arm, and pierced through his guard? In reality it should be the other way around.Gamma 2's suicide attack < Cell Max = Broly < Gohan Beast
True. Was just too lazy to change since I thought no one is going to read it anywayHow is Gamma 2's suicide attack lower than Cell Max when it both destroyed his arm, and pierced through his guard? In reality it should be the other way around.
For ex : Jiren > zamasu
Because he pierced through Cell Max's guard? Even if Cell Max held him off for a small while, his arm that was purposely blocking against the attack was still destroyed, so Gamma 2 exerted a force that not even Cell Max's body (that he was purposely on guard with) was able to stand up to over after a small period of time. Even if it's ever so slightly, Gamma 2's suicide attack > Cell Max's dura at worst, which would still be comparable to his ap.Why would Cell Max be lower than Gamma 2's kamikaze strike when Gamma 2 needed to exert himself even further to break past Max's guard? At best, the two would be comparable, but Cell Max was able to hold back Gamma 2 for an exerted period of time before giving in.
True, but his dome is specifically weaker than the rest of his body.Gamma 2 would have killed cell if cell didn't sacrifice his arm lol
If the attack landed on his head cell would've been finished tbh
right its actually a huge flaw of this wiki Kai is almost blatantly beat for beat the predecessor of Super.Concerning the Buuhan thing .. it did happen in Dragonball Kai and both Kai and Super (Anime) were intended to follow the Manga closer and thus can be argued to be canon to each other. Not only that but they both use the same soundtracks and Super uses flashbacks from Kai rather than Z.
Secondly Toriyama said that the DBS( Manga) is the canon sequel to his manga . At no point does he mention the Anime.
My headcanon was always :
Manga ( Original) -> Manga ( Super)
Dragonball Anime -->Kai --> Super
Dragonball Anime -> Z Anime --> GT
Y'mean his weak point?If the attack landed on his head cell would've been finished tbh
Breaking X's guard does not place Y above X. Moreover, Gamma 2 only broke through Max's guard after an extended struggle, with Max's arm only folding because of the pressure exerted over a lengthy period of time. If Gamma 2 had simply bulldozed through Max in an instant, an argument could be made, but as it stands, Gamma 2's kamikaze attack would only be comparable.Because he pierced through Cell Max's guard?
right its actually a huge flaw of this wiki Kai is almost blatantly beat for beat the predecessor of Super.
Ummm yes it does since the force of the attack, even if it took a while, overwhelmed the defenders strength and pierced through. Gamma 2 destroying his on guard arm would still make his suicide attack > Cell Max's dura which is comparable to his ap.Breaking X's guard does not place Y above X. Moreover, Gamma 2 only broke through Max's guard after an extended struggle, with Max's arm only folding because of the pressure exerted over a lengthy period of time. If Gamma 2 had simply bulldozed through Max in an instant, an argument could be made, but as it stands, Gamma 2's kamikaze attack would only be comparable.
Why would you assume that when the Cell Saga explicitly takes place during the middle of the Dragon Ball Z anime?I would assume the Cell Saga in the anime takes place during the middle of the Dragon Ball Manga