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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

that's what I'm thinking about, those Heroes GT doesn't perceive trunk's movement as just frozen, and Trunks himself can see them..

Xenoverse Trunks should have immeasurable speed Imo.
There are infinite timelines, who's to say the GT from that timeline scale to the other GT from the other timeline which Xenoverse Trunks' scales?
 
There are infinite timelines, who's to say the GT from that timeline scale to the other GT from the other timeline which Xenoverse Trunks' scales?
I do think this makes senses as the Games Multiverse contains both versions of DBS which clearly have different scaling. What does "GT from that timeline" refer to though? The same GT timeline with the immeasurable speed is the one Xenoverse Trunks scales to.
 
He's only shown to have briefly thrown kicks at a random Bio-warrior (who has zero scaling to the JM GT cast). Other than that, his contribution is either nonexistent or assumptious

Are you sure they have zero scaling? These seem to be upgraded bio-warriors with help from Dr. Myuu. Vegeta blocks one of their attacks and their enslaved Piccolo punks Gohan. Goku goes Super Saiyan 4 to fight Dr. Wheelo. I also still think that Trunks would need immeasurable speed to arrive in the timeline before the GT cast stopped flying.
 
Are you sure they have zero scaling? These seem to be upgraded bio-warriors with help from Dr. Myuu. Vegeta blocks one of their attacks and their enslaved Piccolo punks Gohan. Goku goes Super Saiyan 4 to fight Dr. Wheelo. I also still think that Trunks would need immeasurable speed to arrive in the timeline before the GT cast stopped flying.
Them getting an upgrade doesn't matter without feats to scale them. Base Vegeta blocking an attack from that Bio-Warrior, quite casually might I add, only further supports that they don't scale since it inflicted zero damage on him. For Piccolo you could maybe make a case for, but again, Trunks has zero feats nor statements of actually scaling to that Piccolo, only the JM GT cast does. Same with Dr. Wheelo, he's never shown to actually fight him and the fact that he got the JM GT cast to do the dirty work for him only makes the scaling even more dubious. Also Trunks wouldn't need Immeasurable speed for that, him putting the coordinates for the JM GT timeline isn't some crazy reaction speed feat, it's just the Time Machine randomly popping to that specific moment in time. At best it'd be a feat for the Time Machine, not Trunks
 
The Bio-Warriors would have had to capture Piccolo though right? Would that give them the scaling?
Fairly certain it was that giant beam coming from the ground that restrained Piccolo in the first place in the movie (Although it's been over 10 years since I last saw the movie so feel free to correct me on that). But regardless, even if we were that generous, Trunks' only feat is throwing a few kicks at the Bio-Warrior, which it pretty casually blocks with a grin so the scaling's invalid anyways
 
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Xenoverse Trunk's first appearance in a video game consisting of him trying to help guys completely beyond his league and only managing to slow down how fast they fly to Wheelo's base is pretty funny.
Even if XV Trunks doesn't directly scale to the feat could it still upgrade some higher Xenoverse characters? The Immeasurable Speed feat goes to the base saiyans and even if he doesn't help, Trunks is present to witness Nuova Shenron and the Super Saiyan 4s fight. Should that upscale Final Form Mira above those JM GT characters as Trunks finds his power impossible? I don't remember if he has similar statements for earlier characters.
I also definitely think this crossover is before XV1 chronologically as Trunks is using an older time machine model compared to what they use in the XV series.
 
Xenoverse Trunk's first appearance in a video game consisting of him trying to help guys completely beyond his league and only managing to slow down how fast they fly to Wheelo's base is pretty funny.
Even if XV Trunks doesn't directly scale to the feat could it still upgrade some higher Xenoverse characters? The Immeasurable Speed feat goes to the base saiyans and even if he doesn't help, Trunks is present to witness Nuova Shenron and the Super Saiyan 4s fight. Should that upscale Final Form Mira above those JM GT characters as Trunks finds his power impossible? I don't remember if he has similar statements for earlier characters.
I also definitely think this crossover is before XV1 chronologically as Trunks is using an older time machine model compared to what they use in the XV series.
Final Form Mira definitely has potential, but at that point, you could make the argument that XV has performed its own feats for that speed so it's kinda redundant at that point. And yeah the crossover is prob before XV1
 
Fair enough I guess. Is there like any difference though indicated by it not being in that time scroll or nah?
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Well DBH is over unfortunately so kinda hard to do that for the moment. Daima might take a completely different route for the Demon Realm (already has tbh) so scaling it to the DBH version is borderline impossible. The evidence in DBH would take priority for the DBH Demon Realm
I feel like we're going to get Xenoverse 2 DLC oddities with the demon realm. I know its been years already but I wonder if Daima is some kind of nail in the coffin for Xenoverse ever adapting Mechikabura.
 
Then The Crack of time can be arguably be a higher dimensional construct then?
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tfw Gogeta breaks the Crack of Time's even cooler temporal dimension.
 
Then The Crack of time can be arguably be a higher dimensional construct then?
I mean it's already a Low 1-C construct so yeah 🥴
Fair enough I guess. Is there like any difference though indicated by it not being in that time scroll or nah?
Not really no
I feel like we're going to get Xenoverse 2 DLC oddities with the demon realm. I know its been years already but I wonder if Daima is some kind of nail in the coffin for Xenoverse ever adapting Mechikabura.
Daima DLC for XV2 has been already announced so who knows what they're gonna do
 
I said I wasn't interested in revising early DB characters, but this is a small exception that I only just noticed today.
 
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