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Dose anyone else here like the angles of franchise vs franchise in there entirety?
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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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You guys think we can get Dragon Ball Xenoverse to have immeasurable speed? Unlike DBH they only have infinite speed but I noticed Xenoverse Trunks seems to scale to one of the feats on the Immeasurable Speed Explanation page. Specifically these scans.
This is also probably Trunks before Xenoverse 1. This isn't an exact science but the trailer came out almost 5 months before Xenoverse 1 released (September 10, 2014 vs. Februrary 5, 2015 in Japan). If I have to justify this, Trunks was already an experienced time patroller before the start of the game and mentions dealing with legendary fighters and dangerous forces. I feel like by X1 Trunks would just send somebody else to help since he seems to work more like a mission coordinator when he can.
If we were to upgrade X1 Base Trunks to this speed it would upscale pretty much all the other significant characters in those games.Immeasurable Speed Xenoverse Namek Saga
Literally immediately after this feat Xenoverse Trunks shows ups. The Dragon Ball (Games) Cosmology page says this is straight up Xenoverse Trunks and not Heroes' Xeno Trunks.
After appearing he flies with the GT cast and helps them in battle. If you think about it his reaction speed also sort of blitzed their travel speed. The cast flies into the timeline, Trunks must have immediately found out which timeline they're in because he has to put the coordinates to use the time machine, and he arrives before Beat and Note catch up to the other characters who stopped flying.
This is also probably Trunks before Xenoverse 1. This isn't an exact science but the trailer came out almost 5 months before Xenoverse 1 released (September 10, 2014 vs. Februrary 5, 2015 in Japan). If I have to justify this, Trunks was already an experienced time patroller before the start of the game and mentions dealing with legendary fighters and dangerous forces. I feel like by X1 Trunks would just send somebody else to help since he seems to work more like a mission coordinator when he can.
If we were to upgrade X1 Base Trunks to this speed it would upscale pretty much all the other significant characters in those games.
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Having appear before the release of XV1 doesn't make him chronologically before the event of XV1, chronologically in-game, it is Time Patrol Xenoverse Trunks, but we didn't know what time period he belong to at the time he travel to DBH battlefield
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I acknowledged that but gave some reasons I personally feel like this would be before XV1 based on how he does his job XV1 and onwards. I guess Trunks could be like 75 here and get some "Unknown Period" key where he has immeasurable speed I guess.
Since that card has the Xenoverse 1 logo on it though I feel like saying this is Xenoverse 2 or Post-XV2 Trunks seems silly.
Also if we analyze his dialogue Trunks says "I have a feeling we'll meet again somewhere. I'll look forward to seeing you then!" to the GT cast. This line reads to me like its the first time he's interacted with GT characters but he does interact with GT characters in a DLC pack for XV1.
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When we can successfully communicate with Toriyama's dead spirit
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Afaik Toriyama is barely involved in DBH tho, while he is credited as the creator, the one who is the manager of the DBH game, if I'm Not mistake is Hiroyuki Sakurada..
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How does the Shared Games Multiverse work with scaling to DBZ characters? For instance can unaltered (no dark ki or other stuff) Heroes Buu Saga characters be stronger than Xenoverse Buu Saga characters? It maybe seems like Heroes Buu Saga characters travel to 10 million years ago and then back. I guess even in the same multiverse I can understand Heroes Buu Saga Base Vegito heavily out speeding Xenoverse Fu but it is kind of funny. Xenoverse Trunks sees the GT crew flying between timelines and is like ????????????
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that's what I'm thinking about, those Heroes GT doesn't perceive trunk's movement as just frozen, and Trunks himself can see them..
Xenoverse Trunks should have immeasurable speed Imo.
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We could've had it but supporters fumbled 5D afterlife
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Why stop at 1C when we could try getting 1A 
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Next fumble: 6D Crack of TimeWe could've had it but supporters fumbled 5D afterlife
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Aww that sucks.. But afterlife I think is still 5D, it doesn't matter if Baba can go to the afterlife or not, because Baba can go to higher dimensions like the afterlife, and because I think it allows her to powers to be Ascend to higher realms or something via special techniques.We could've had it but supporters fumbled 5D afterlife
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There are infinite timelines, who's to say the GT from that timeline scale to the other GT from the other timeline which Xenoverse Trunks' scales?
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Acceptable circular scaling glitch
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So many things to announce about DB, but it's more hero chapters, as i hate heroes in DB, boring.
What i want most is the Black Freeza Saga
What i want most is the Black Freeza Saga
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I do think this makes senses as the Games Multiverse contains both versions of DBS which clearly have different scaling. What does "GT from that timeline" refer to though? The same GT timeline with the immeasurable speed is the one Xenoverse Trunks scales to.
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Xenoverse Trunks absolutely does not scale to the JM GT cast. Like at all lmao
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Why not though since he was there and fought with them?
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He's only shown to have briefly thrown kicks at a random Bio-warrior (who has zero scaling to the JM GT cast). Other than that, his contribution is either nonexistent or assumptious
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Are you sure they have zero scaling? These seem to be upgraded bio-warriors with help from Dr. Myuu. Vegeta blocks one of their attacks and their enslaved Piccolo punks Gohan. Goku goes Super Saiyan 4 to fight Dr. Wheelo. I also still think that Trunks would need immeasurable speed to arrive in the timeline before the GT cast stopped flying.
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Them getting an upgrade doesn't matter without feats to scale them. Base Vegeta blocking an attack from that Bio-Warrior, quite casually might I add, only further supports that they don't scale since it inflicted zero damage on him. For Piccolo you could maybe make a case for, but again, Trunks has zero feats nor statements of actually scaling to that Piccolo, only the JM GT cast does. Same with Dr. Wheelo, he's never shown to actually fight him and the fact that he got the JM GT cast to do the dirty work for him only makes the scaling even more dubious. Also Trunks wouldn't need Immeasurable speed for that, him putting the coordinates for the JM GT timeline isn't some crazy reaction speed feat, it's just the Time Machine randomly popping to that specific moment in time. At best it'd be a feat for the Time Machine, not Trunks
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The Bio-Warriors would have had to capture Piccolo though right? Would that give them the scaling?
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Fairly certain it was that giant beam coming from the ground that restrained Piccolo in the first place in the movie (Although it's been over 10 years since I last saw the movie so feel free to correct me on that). But regardless, even if we were that generous, Trunks' only feat is throwing a few kicks at the Bio-Warrior, which it pretty casually blocks with a grin so the scaling's invalid anyways
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Xenoverse Trunk's first appearance in a video game consisting of him trying to help guys completely beyond his league and only managing to slow down how fast they fly to Wheelo's base is pretty funny.
Even if XV Trunks doesn't directly scale to the feat could it still upgrade some higher Xenoverse characters? The Immeasurable Speed feat goes to the base saiyans and even if he doesn't help, Trunks is present to witness Nuova Shenron and the Super Saiyan 4s fight. Should that upscale Final Form Mira above those JM GT characters as Trunks finds his power impossible? I don't remember if he has similar statements for earlier characters.
I also definitely think this crossover is before XV1 chronologically as Trunks is using an older time machine model compared to what they use in the XV series.
Even if XV Trunks doesn't directly scale to the feat could it still upgrade some higher Xenoverse characters? The Immeasurable Speed feat goes to the base saiyans and even if he doesn't help, Trunks is present to witness Nuova Shenron and the Super Saiyan 4s fight. Should that upscale Final Form Mira above those JM GT characters as Trunks finds his power impossible? I don't remember if he has similar statements for earlier characters.
I also definitely think this crossover is before XV1 chronologically as Trunks is using an older time machine model compared to what they use in the XV series.
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Final Form Mira definitely has potential, but at that point, you could make the argument that XV has performed its own feats for that speed so it's kinda redundant at that point. And yeah the crossover is prob before XV1
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What was announced? Where can I hear about it?
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If the Dark Demon Realm is already Beyond Time, does that make the Crack of Time and the Dark Demon Realm after the Time Labyrinth... Double Beyond Time?
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Then The Crack of time can be arguably be a higher dimensional construct then?
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Fair enough I guess. Is there like any difference though indicated by it not being in that time scroll or nah?
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I feel like we're going to get Xenoverse 2 DLC oddities with the demon realm. I know its been years already but I wonder if Daima is some kind of nail in the coffin for Xenoverse ever adapting Mechikabura.
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I mean it's already a Low 1-C construct so yeah
Not really no
Daima DLC for XV2 has been already announced so who knows what they're gonna do
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Maximum over Time!
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Yeah
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What would be to corse of action if it is contraditory to DBH? We all just sigh and shake our heads?I mean it's already a Low 1-C construct so yeah
Not really no
Daima DLC for XV2 has been already announced so who knows what they're gonna do
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