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I know but I'm genuinely concerned for that dude. I couldn't understand any of that
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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With enough time, you Will understand, if you remember not to forget
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Plz we both know you'll remind him when said thread is made
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i will not be there, or i probably will be there
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No, he didn't. For some reason.
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Strangely, (allegedly), in the Broly Movie novel Piccolo was capable of sensing Gogeta's "True Inner Strength," (his full power as a SSB) without Gogeta even being a SSB, which means by that point Piccolo is allegedly able to sense God Ki. But y'know, doesn't make much sense in the DBS Manga.
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Or he does but it's dormant and he doesn't know it yet
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Did you?
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I mean, dormant power is a pretty consistent thing, yeah.
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oh yeah, because somehow the dormant power of Gohan was so great, that he could equal the power of gods, why???BECAUSE OF HIS POTENTIAL (my god i hate that so much)
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He could. It could just be like all the other none GoD gods and be seemingly insignificant and they still out pour alot of normal ki hence can be sensed
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Doesn't all your Ki become God Ki once you become a god? If there was normal ki still, people would be able to sense it
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Dende still has a form of normal Ki. In his words, his God Ki has only "developed a little," which doesn't leave him much God strength to give. Though, that doesn't make much sense when Bulma and the Z-Fighters were giving up their ordinary Ki to Goku to fuel his attack against Planet Moro.
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I mean, it makes sense. Either Goku's form is converting normal Ki to God Ki, or he was using both when he got both.
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I mean in the context of Dende's statement. Yeah, God Ki is better, but if ordinary Ki can get the job done in high quantity, he should just...use his ordinary Ki.
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Given the DBS Speed Upgrade thread is dead, I feel like posting my Baby thread.
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And everyone can sense denda shin and king kia, there is no indication all of it becomes God ki only that they have and can sense God ki
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quick, someone go bump that thread before he posts his
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.........so Goku's God forms have normal Ki still and thus can be sensed by non gods?
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The "Poison Manipulation & Cellular Destruction" resistance part has "Survived after drinking the Water of the Gods" (Vegeta never did that).
The Information Analysis resistance seems like a Goku specific thing too.
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I really shouldn't need to explain that goku's god forms are much closer to a GoD and explicity can't be sensed by a being lesser then a god on many occasions, and there for are most likely just god ki.
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Eden_Warlock99
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Ya mind me asking what that is?
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Can't **** your own wife.
It's a a quiet beautiful novel that depicts a man who can't even visit or be with his wife, hence the title.
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ok, why does Goku, who isn't a born god, can erase all his Normal Ki, while natural born gods, like Kai's, don't when one is "more of a god" than Goku? like, i still want to know where you got that "they still have some normal Ki blended in cuz they are not as developted" stuff you said earlier.........i never heard of such a thing
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did this man cook?
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I disagree, but I think it's because his martial arts skills are reliant on statements and less on in battle choreography or style changing, mostly because Goku fights enemies who are either just as skilled (Roshi, Grandpa Gohan, Piccolo Jr., Vegeta, Cell, Black), or people so strong they can't ever be beaten by raw skill (Frieza, Vegeta, Buu, Jiren, Moro), and as such he doesn't seem as skilled as he actually IS. Kind of like lore scaling for video games. Visually it's punch very fast or flashy attacks, but contextually he's actually like, Batman-Lite in a world where being Batman-Lite isn't that impressive.
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As long as your punch hit, technique don't matter, flashy technique create more waste movement. Iirc Whis in-verse did said something about the need to eliminate waste movement, and when Goki first turn UIS, many claimed his movements are more accurate
About battle cheography, it is depend on animators who animate the fight, there are some fight with detailed martial art movement cheography back in Z, especially the SSJ2 Goku vs SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, its majority was animated by Tadayoshi Yamamuro who created the famous "Z artsyle" that people nowadays keep mentioning about to shame on DBS, despite DBS was animated by the same guy and same team lol. Yamamuro background stated he learned martial arts at Shaolin Temple, which he incorporated into his animating style when he became animator. So it is mostly depend on if the animator who in charge of fighting scence have skill to incorporate martial art cheography in or not, like there is a Naruto animator who stated he like Wing Chun so many of his fighting scene in Naruto have characters using Wing Chun move. In DBZ Resurrection of F movie, the starting section of Whis training battle with Goku and Vegeta literally have Whis perform Wing Chun stance and perform Wing Chun move, i fact due to Toei decision of promoting Yamamuro into the film director position, many martial art moves was used in the movie, like the Bruce Lee's one inch punch which SSB Goku used on Golden Frieza
So overall i'm not keen on using purely visual to debate who is skilled in fighting technique or not because it is entirely depend on animators feel like they want to incorporate fighting moves into the scene or not as every anime always have team consist of many animators working on the anime, thus we always have a situation where in a scene a character demonstrate excellent moves then two or three scene later the same character perform amateurish, simplistic movements due to a different animator took over and is in charge of that specific scene
About battle cheography, it is depend on animators who animate the fight, there are some fight with detailed martial art movement cheography back in Z, especially the SSJ2 Goku vs SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, its majority was animated by Tadayoshi Yamamuro who created the famous "Z artsyle" that people nowadays keep mentioning about to shame on DBS, despite DBS was animated by the same guy and same team lol. Yamamuro background stated he learned martial arts at Shaolin Temple, which he incorporated into his animating style when he became animator. So it is mostly depend on if the animator who in charge of fighting scence have skill to incorporate martial art cheography in or not, like there is a Naruto animator who stated he like Wing Chun so many of his fighting scene in Naruto have characters using Wing Chun move. In DBZ Resurrection of F movie, the starting section of Whis training battle with Goku and Vegeta literally have Whis perform Wing Chun stance and perform Wing Chun move, i fact due to Toei decision of promoting Yamamuro into the film director position, many martial art moves was used in the movie, like the Bruce Lee's one inch punch which SSB Goku used on Golden Frieza
So overall i'm not keen on using purely visual to debate who is skilled in fighting technique or not because it is entirely depend on animators feel like they want to incorporate fighting moves into the scene or not as every anime always have team consist of many animators working on the anime, thus we always have a situation where in a scene a character demonstrate excellent moves then two or three scene later the same character perform amateurish, simplistic movements due to a different animator took over and is in charge of that specific scene
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It's also just like...Anime. A good example is how Cell's "perfect" stance where he puts his two arms over each other is universally agreed by anyone who has ever been in a fight would be absolutely terrible, but in Dragon Ball is the culmination of decades of Supercomputer work and collective martial arts ability of Goku, Vegeta, King Cold, Frieza, and more. (With the Anime extending it to all the masters of the past AND Z-Fighters.) Ultra-super-duper. Looks excessively cool.
Absolutely awful in real life.
There's just this separation between reality and fiction people seem to forget.
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Vietthai96
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False, bait stances exist but well, we don't know anyway
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Funny thing that's how it works in Raging Blast, Cell's skill makes him do that pose then you input an attack with different buttons to sucker punch your opponent.
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Anime asside.........who else exactly? weren't Cell only those 4?......altho i remember Gohan also being in there? not remembering well i guess on my part
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It had some knowledge of other masters from OG DB time era but they are scrubs skill wise compared to those four so yeah basically four.
I like to think a little bit of Yamcha got put in Cell but it nerfed him
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Not to ******* mention Piccolo saw the result of all that shit from Imperfect Cell and literally calls it ass.
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Then you have beginning of Super Goku clowning on Perfect Cell in image training, so all that insane Cell saga shit is light work even by early Super.
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Weren't both of those cuz of power tho?
Altho........point still stands i guess lol
