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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

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Lmao buu saga>cell saga
in terms of writing? i have to disagree
This reminds me of a popluar rumour but I've never found any solid proof of it being true. Apparently there's a West Vs East divide when it comes to Cell and Buu with Cell being very popluar in the West but not so much in Japan while the reverse is true with Buu, ofc when it comes to villains they both play second figure to Frieza from what I've seen in various forums.
 
This reminds me of a popluar rumour but I've never found any solid proof of it being true. Apparently there's a West Vs East divide when it comes to Cell and Buu with Cell being very popluar in the West but not so much in Japan while the reverse is true with Buu, ofc when it comes to villains they both play second figure to Frieza from what I've seen in various forums.
probably true, Japanese audience usually has different opinions than western ones

im neither so
 
How that would make "extremally useless" trought?
mmm, maybe because it is hard to obtain, and i expect for something that was actually worth to obtain once you get that, but, just a simply instinctive reaction?
like, the ability is not comparable to the amount of work you have to achieve that.
 
mmm, maybe because it is hard to obtain, and i expect for something that was actually worth to obtain once you get that, but, just a simply instinctive reaction?
like, the ability is not comparable to the amount of work you have to achieve that.
What about the Power boost the form gaves? Like, Goku as getting stomped by Jiren, as able to complete dominate the fight after.
 
No one saying Buu Saga is best than the Red Ribbon Saga, what are you on?
Yeah of course they aren't. Buu Saga is leagues ahead of RR, no one even compares them. People are saying it's better than the Cell Saga though (which is the best) and I have to inform them that they are incorrect.
 
To everyone calling UI useless, why is Super Saiyan better?
Why don't people understand what I'm saying? I say that the ability it has is useless, the power boost, for me at least, is not something relevant to mention because it is obviously going to have a power boost because is a transformation
the ability to ''act without thinking''is my problem.
 
the ability to ''act without thinking''is my problem.
Because is "hard to obtain"? Just because is hard to obtain, don't mean that now you can "act without thinking" is not super usefull. Like, that gives a better advantage during combat that what might think.
 
Because is "hard to obtain"? Just because is hard to obtain, don't mean that now you can "act without thinking" is not super usefull. Like, that gives a better advantage during combat that what might think.

Compared to fiction, no, it is not useful, but I should not say useless, but worthless (there is no reason to take you so long to have this)
 
Why don't people understand what I'm saying? I say that the ability it has is useless, the power boost, for me at least, is not something relevant to mention because it is obviously going to have a power boost because is a transformation
the ability to ''act without thinking''is my problem.
Isn't that just shit most martial artists strive to be capable of anyways, even irl? Working off of pure instinct?
 
Yes, but for a series where throwing energy balls became normal, I would expect something BIGGER!
I mean Dragon Ball started off as being about martial arts and stuff till the Z era came around battles became more destructive and over the top.

But when you think about it: isn't Ultra Instinct the accumulation of everything that Goku was taught by all his teachers and the lessons he learned in his own accord? To me, Ultra Instinct represents the years of character growth Goku had.
 
Did you think he was going to compare it with his own series?
Bro, you said:
I'm going to be honest with all of you and say...ultra instinct is extremely useless as a technique.
What in that sentence I would interpret as you saying "compared to other pieces of fiction"?

Not to mention, this logic is flawed. "This ability is useless because is hard to obtain, while this other pieces of media have the same ability which is easy to obtain", like bro, that still would't make useless.

Like, If you comparing Ultra Instict to other abilities in fiction, and still ignoring the Power boost, that still would't make useless even If is difficult to obtain.
 
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I mean Dragon Ball started off as being about martial arts and stuff till the Z era came around battles became more destructive and over the top.
Nah, Goku was already shooting energy blasts in the 15th chapter

But when you think about it: isn't Ultra Instinct the accumulation of everything that Goku was taught by all his teachers and the lessons he learned in his own accord? To me, Ultra Instinct represents the years of character growth Goku had.
Pretty much this, it is the accumulation of every single step that made Goku become someone powerful enough to be feared even by Gods, also representing it's grown as a character
 
mmm, maybe because it is hard to obtain, and i expect for something that was actually worth to obtain once you get that, but, just a simply instinctive reaction?
like, the ability is not comparable to the amount of work you have to achieve that.
The ability allows you to fight people who are stronger then you. Like a literal fusion level difference stronger.
 
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