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Dragon Ball Super - Broly and Gogeta Justification Addition

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Is it really that hard to grasp that not everybody in the world is going to blindly follow along with these wackjob upgrade threads, because not everybody in the world is a mindless simpleton? That some people find themselves disagreeing with your proposed ideas? That, maybe, everything you've been spouting in the past hundred posts has been a load of word vomit with very little substance or even an iota of logic?

I'm not speaking logically? I'm not the one putting random, worthless puzzle pieces together like Toyotaro saying he likes Broly or that the novel was written by Toriyama y'know, the head honcho.
 
Toriyama and Kusakabe listed as the novel's authors/creators. It states that Toriyama is responsible for the original story, script, and character design, while Kusakabe is responsible for the novel's own adaptation.

Literally named after Akira toriyama in the novel, not considering it for the manga or movie is totally negotiable



There is no contradiction about the novel not being valid for the manga or movie, in the manga there is no Brolly arc and what we literally have to take is what was shown as canonical, and it was also shown events from the movie in the manga and it was all the same



It's easier for you to say that the Knights of the Zodiac EP G is not canon, than to say that the movie/novel is not valid for the manga.

The novel does nothing but elaborate the story, better explaining certain aspects and showing certain scenes from a different angle.


Well here's something else important

Well, I suppose that seems fairly reliable, although it is possible that the book's author changed Toriyama's original story outline a bit.
 
Also, everybody need to try to stay calm and polite to each other here. This is supposed to be a nice and friendly community.
 
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Well, I suppose that seems fairly reliable, although it is possible that the book's author changed Toriyama's original story outline a bit.
well, adm, for now nothing that refutes the novel, everything happened according to the movie and even mentioned that Brolly is above Bills, it's up to you to accept such a book to level up the manga
 
According to Herms, this dimension does not exist within the reality of universe 7, it is beyond universe 7, so it has its own space-time.

The above-mentioned battleground that could only be made with CG will be a highlight of the movie (they say). It's a type of place that doesn’t exist in reality, like an alternate dimension, and they created it with the software Unity.

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Dragon Ball official website mentioned of the superdimensional dimension


 
According to Herms, this dimension does not exist within the reality of universe 7, it is beyond universe 7, so it has its own space-time.

The above-mentioned battleground that could only be made with CG will be a highlight of the movie (they say). It's a type of place that doesn’t exist in reality, like an alternate dimension, and they created it with the software Unity.

Where he quotes scan:



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Dragon Ball official website mentioned of the superdimensional dimension



chou-jigen?
 
So do we have sufficient staff agreements to apply this revision?

What did LordGriffin1000 and Elizhaa think?
 
Okay. Thank you for the replies. What has been accepted here can probably be applied then.
 
No problem. Is somebody who knows how to edit properly willing to apply this then?
 
Destroying part of a dimension boundary is not a justification for low 2c. I can name many characters that are not universal that can do the same like buhhan ect. It's just spatial manipulation at best
 
Buuhan (we're talking toei) was going to destroy the universe by destroying the dimensional boundaries in the macrocosm, essentially collapsing everything upon itself. The power in the fight here crumbled the dimension in its entirety past its boundary. The feats aren't similar.
 
Well toei Buuhan feat is confirmed to be universal in guidebooks and it’s done through sheer power, it’s just that it is a massive outlier for him so It is not included.
 
Buuhan (we're talking toei) was going to destroy the universe by destroying the dimensional boundaries in the macrocosm, essentially collapsing everything upon itself. The power in the fight here crumbled the dimension in its entirety past its boundary. The feats aren't similar.
1. We don't know the size of that dimension
2. The fact they couldn't destroy their universe like they did the other dimension means their power isn't low 2c
 
Well toei Buuhan feat is confirmed to be universal in guidebooks and it’s done through sheer power, it’s just that it is a massive outlier for him so It is not included.
Vai chain reaction by destroying a part of the boundary
 
1. We don't know the size of that dimension
2. The fact they couldn't destroy their universe like they did the other dimension means their power isn't low 2c
1. What evidence supports the thinking that this dimension they were moved to in the vastness of the main universe is anything less than universal in size?
2. This doesn't make any sense. Does the fact that Goku and Beerus didn't actually destroy Universe 7 not make them universal?
 
1. What evidence supports the thinking that this dimension they were moved to in the vastness of the main universe is anything less than universal in size?
2. This doesn't make any sense. Does the fact that Goku and Beerus didn't actually destroy Universe 7 not make them universal?
The op drop scans with no translations. I didn't see anything saying they destroyed a dimension. Nor anything relating to its size.

1.What supports the idea that this dimension is universal?

2. Goku beerus is different theirs a statement they would have over time plus they were holding back. Theirs no such statement for broly and Gogeta. But like I said if they can shatter a dimension which you think universal. Why can't they destroy their own universe? Especially since they fought longer and used more power In their universe.
 
1. What evidence supports the thinking that this dimension they were moved to in the vastness of the main universe is anything less than universal in size?
So according to you when the size of a dimension is unknown the common assumption is to say that it is universal in size? By the way, according to OP, the dimension is beyond the limits of the universe
 
The op drop scans with no translations. I didn't see anything saying they destroyed a dimension. Nor anything relating to its size.

1.What supports the idea that this dimension is universal?

2. Goku beerus is different theirs a statement they would have over time plus they were holding back. Theirs no such statement for broly and Gogeta. But like I said if they can shatter a dimension which you think universal. Why can't they destroy their own universe? Especially since they fought longer and used more power In their universe.
1. This is begging the question. The burden is on you to prove that the dimension isn't universal if not higher.
2. Everyone is always holding back; that is the premise of ki control. Both feats are also over time as neither was instantaneous (0 time).

So according to you when the size of a dimension is unknown the common assumption is to say that it is universal in size? By the way, according to OP, the dimension is beyond the limits of the universe
The only confined and confirmed dimension with a size is the ROSAT, which was created to be the size it is. I'm assuming an extra-dimensional plane at least mirrors the standard plane unless proven otherwise. The universes all have bubble boundaries. The space containing the universes was not stated to have a boundary but is obviously far greater than universal. The null realm was stated to be infinite. It's a reasonable low assumption within the context of the show's cosmology. Like I said earlier, OP's translations stated they were affecting reality which is a stronger term than space or time.
 
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