No one should have to go over pages and pages of a thread and make a rewritte, chances are they read the said counters and didn't commented because they didn't agreed and couldn't add anything else to the discussion, so they didn't commented, staff are very busy, to force them to come back everytime a counter is said is completely impractical
That why the thread is open, and nothing happen, and they don't even need to read through the entire thread, they could ask for a summary of important points
they can do that, but it shouldn't be an obligation, as i said, staff are very busy individuals, and to discount their votes for nothing more than personal belief of "debunk" and to demand them to comment again or else their votes will be discounted, even when they could very well be doing something else important is very dishonest, if you want to go through that approach, keep the votes counted and then ask for their input again
i mean, the thread is still open, no one push for it, so................................even if they are busy, they can come back anytime, their votes currently are just temporary being discounted, unless they decides to not interest in the thread anymore and make no further attempt to comment
dude, that is not how it works, you can't discount votes just because you offered counter arguments and the opposite side staff didn't commented further, this is not how it works at all, like i said up above:
they might as well have read the counters and still didn't agreed, but didn't commented due to not seeing a purpose in it, "agree to disagree" if you will, but that is irrelevant to the main point, they still disagreed, even if counters were showed, it would be insane to discount every vote everytime a new counters comes up, and it would lead threads to never end since everyone would need to constantly respond to them no matter how many were coming up constantly, if you to discount their's, them also discount everyone else's, since new counters to the counters were also said and not every individual came back to reaffirm their points, but to discount only the opposite side just because you believe that they were countered while that may not even be true is a really, really low move
well, the said debate revolves around something that will decide if the thread will be approved or not, then yeah we should since it is kind of important to the thread
Nothing has changed. People were only waiting for Ultima's comment since he expressed his wish to comment on the thread after it was closed.
If so then my original stance can be presumed to continue.
This organizes the points and adds some new ones
Went through that and my stance is unchanged.
I see what do you think needs to be shown or stated for it to qualify for Low 1-C? I could hopefully provide the scans needed
Actually existing qualitatively superior to the space-time of the multiverse. Or on a higher plane that completely trivializes 4-dimensional space-time. Or existing above the multiverse such that its space-time is infinitesimal to you. So far, all I've seen is that the Crack of Time is a segregated section of reality that lacks time or something along those lines.
It was stated multiple time to be a super dimension that transcend space-times and beyond the entire multiverse, which enough to prove CoT to be superior to the 2-A multiverse. With these multiple statements and proofs, it should be at least qualify for a Possibly rating. Your standard is like forcing the verse the copypaste the the entire tiering system definition to qualify for the tier
Which doesn't mean anything on its own.
Which can mean multiple things. Based on my understanding, it merely means separation.
I feel I'm being quite reasonable in my assessment but you're welcome to consult other staff on it if you feel I'm being wilfully obtuse.
It isn't mean anything on it own, but it isn't standing alone, it isn't like i slap: hey CoT is a super dimension so it is Low 1-C. There is other supporting proofs for it
Well, again like i said, it isn't just only this. But if you like to isolates everything into tiny parts then counter them......i have nothing to say
Well it is normal for us to feel that our own opinion is reasonable while others isn't. And i'm not saying you being wilfully obtuse, but rather the way you excute the standard is too narrow vision.
I'm writing all of them and trust me, OP is taking a lot of things out of context.
Being outside time does not mean anything. I am not 4D because I am outside of the universe.
Have you read the FAQ? Because it means nothing.
Of course it does not affected, is a space outside timelines.
Chamel is 100% aware of that place, he was there, yet he said that everything is desytoyed, so the CoT was affected too.
Beyond baseline 2-A range.
Again, read the FAQ, because those statements from their own are worthless.
I'd like you to read those points, as I have no idea on how you guys actually can agree with this lol.
Issue is that those are all 2-A at peak.
Is that a concession that the CoT is bigger than a baseline 2-A structure?
I said range, as the CoT is outside those timelines (but does not house them) so of course it would not be affected.
Ok so basically, 2 2-A structures.
What no? People were arguing against the upgrade last time because of that reason.
It's more something among the likes of the Nightmare Realm of Gravity Falls, which is a place which between the dimensions while also being outside of them.
Ok
GF didn’t have me arguing for the verse.
It makes it at least as big in this case.
That's quite the boldness my guy.
Indeed, I never argued against it being on comparable size. But I mean that at best it's big as a 2-A multiverse as it functions as something outside and between the timelines (like the bridge as I said, or even roads if you want to), without being bigger than it.
