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Quick question that is somewhat irrelevant but didn't we address plato not being 1-A
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Dragon Ball Heroes: Cosmological Review
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Vietthai96
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Platonism isn't automatically 1-A anymore. But it isn't mattered here since there is no such a thing in DB
1. Anyway since someone said transcend space-time is flowery language, it isn't, because literally said flowery statement belong to DBS which pretty much one time only, and that is. DBH/XV while it do adapt DBS story, is entire it their own thing with different creator that not related to Toei and Toyotaro so you can't just argue that because DBS made one flowery statement thus every other statements in XV and Heroes is flowery, that a fallacy
2. Also transcend space-time isn't the main argument, it is a supporting one. The main one is CoT was repeatedly stated to be a Super Dimension that beyond the flow of time, the entire multiverse, and it is beyond the reach of even powerful beings such as Gods, Zeno, Super Shenron who is all-powerful wish dragon, and iirc Zeno who is stated to be omnipotent couldn't reach it.
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It’s easier to explain stuff on discord which is why I wanna talk to you on discord transcending/being beyond space and time can mean different things depending on context in DBS transcending space and time was referring to time travel and it was simple that it was referring to that no hyperbole or flowery language transcending space and time can mean time travel in this case we’re dealing with a space that contains an infinite amount of timelines that look like dots from its perspective that interconnects an infinite amount of timelines but is seperated from time and the timelines all together and 2-A range can’t even reach this place called the CoT so when it’s stated to be beyond space and time it refers to the place itself which shows qualitative superiority from how the space works in general My issue here is you’re ignoring all the context which seems to be an issue on the site for some people but it’s easier to explain on discord I’m not a toxic person (unless I get insulted) but if you treat me with respect I’ll treat you with respect back no need to worry
its never hyperbole or flowery anyway but even if you say it is yeah that’d be right but transcending space and time can equate to time travel which is the case in dbs
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Possibly Low 1-C works for me.
CraigTucker
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Honestly is there any other staffs who understand the dbh verse and The COT to make a point of view because it seems like ultima isn't coming
Braking
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This thread uses cot for low 1-c yes.
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I mean could I post a non crack of time related 1-c upgrade or would I have to make a different crt
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I see what further things would you need to see for Low 1-C? I could have scans to help in that department
just CoT
All I hope is that it’s not Beats world
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No mechi’s black hole
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Don't clog the thread with unrelated arguments,please.
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No I will eventually make a Crt separate from this one
Braking
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Yea okay but this thread is primarily talking about the CoT. You can disscuss it somewhere else like the discussion threads.
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obvious agree
CraigTucker
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I fear the second this gets accepted, a tier 1 staff only standard revision thread is going to be made.
CraigTucker
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Ngl same i remember the time we tried to upgrade immessurable speed xeno/heroes boi that end bad lmao
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Bro I'm dead someone unironically used arguments from the amino apps post 
Anyway, arguments seem fine, I agree with possibly Low 1-C
Anyway, arguments seem fine, I agree with possibly Low 1-C
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3:2..... It takes 3 staff agreement in "plus" for smth as controversial as this to get accepted.
CraigTucker
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Not only that but the person who agure itBro I'm dead someone unironically used arguments from the amino apps post
Anyway, arguments seem fine, I agree with possibly Low 1-C
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We already have two staff members agreeing to the possibly low 1-C
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Well, I think I'll summon a few more for this to actually happen.
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And 3 staff disagreeing.
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1 more left to fill the void, but super moderators goes for 2 or more admins lol
Braking
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Vietthai96
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Not really, I already countered @Planck69 arguments, and he never countered back, @Everything12 agreed with Planck's points but that point is countered, so to be fair, their disagreement is null and void until they come back, @Theglassman12 was left in the air so idk his opinion
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Glass said if the crystals were universes then that’d be enough for tier 1 (even better since they’re timelines) so I’d assume he’d agree if he were to find that out and Maverick agreed with Glass so they should agree but at worst are neutral
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Oh wow this CRT looks actually decent. The OP is just my CRT but better.
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Creditshifter...
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If I had a dime for every time someone ripped off my CRT and made it better, I'd have 2 dimes, which isn't much but it's weird that it happened twice.
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Yeah, for instance, your arguement that Rex Dimension is inside Ben's Universe.
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You can't discount votes just because you think their points were "countered"
Vietthai96
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Not really, being debunk is one thing, but also since their comment was a long time ago, they need to come back to re-confirm their opinion, both agreement and disagreement side are the same
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@Irineu, place all cited as neutral, until some give their opinion, do not disagree without at least having arguments for it and the other points were refuted, there is no reason for them to disagree.
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Anyway, invalid vote may count for @Everything12 as he is practically dead for month, but other staff members, you all gotta ask them.
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