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More arguments were given and Op was refuted, could you give more of your opinion here?I will be oberserving for a while before I give my thoughts, but I agree that the opposition should make one big post with the counterarguments.
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More arguments were given and Op was refuted, could you give more of your opinion here?I will be oberserving for a while before I give my thoughts, but I agree that the opposition should make one big post with the counterarguments.
More arguments were given and Op was refuted, could you give your opinion?I'm honestly sick of attempted U-turns at this point, but I don't really care too much. Executor N0 has made it perfectly clear that the translations are valid, but whether or not they're "Hyperbolic" is up for debate. Even if it was Finite, I still think the universe should be much larger than our observable universe based on the old parameters we accepted. But once again, I still don't really care one way or the other beyond that. But leaning towards keeping them the way they are.
What are you trying to prove by this.?NOT A REAL CONTRADICTION
More arguments were given and the Op refuted, could you give your opinion one more time?I'm in the agreement with OP.
Nice duck, anyways. I am literally just pointing out the obvious. Something infinite having an edge is completely fine. If not, you can't assert there'd be anything bigger than it. It's just basic logic.I thought this was already over and then someone came up with that, not asserting anything relevant to the actual scans presented and simply bringing accusations of "straw man" and argumentum ad lapidem. Since this thread was accepted, I'm leaving.
INB4 "they're getting only finite increases in power!!!" and "it doesn't make sense for them to have finite increases in power when their multipliers are finite!!11!"Increases aren't an issue. Xeno Trunks jumps from 4-B to 2-A with 6 months of training.
LMAOINB4 "they're getting only finite increases in power!!!" and "it doesn't make sense for them to have finite increases in power when their multipliers are finite!!11!"
An infinite universe in some contexts can indeed have an edge (like in an higher-dimensional perspective), but that's not the case here, as we are talking standard three-dimensional space (Tier 3).
I suggest you watching this video, which explains that a boundary in an infinite universe can be defined mathematically (not geometrically).
Shows me you can't even defend your argument, you just post it, have no real backlash, and leave when people actually argue. Your post is really bad, and this shouldn't be accepted. Furthermore, more people will be available once your 2-C downgrade attempt thread will be posted and quickly refuted and declined.I'm leaving x2. Don't bother.
What will all of these be downgraded to?Toei Vegeta does not have an High 3-A key.
Also:
Mira
Broly (DBH)
Demigra
Future Warrior
Future Warrior (X2)
Hatchiyack
Hero (UT)
Probably I'm missing some. IDK.
English is not my native language.
What will all of these be downgraded to?
Hey since you are a dbh supporter, what stat will the chars linked above be changed to? Could you help with the inplementation?Increases aren't an issue. Xeno Trunks jumps from 4-B to 2-A with 6 months of training.
Don't, the discussion isn't even over.Hey since you are a dbh supporter, what stat will the chars linked above be changed to? Could you help with the inplementation?
Hmmm,nvm. I stand by what i said beforeNo wait, DBH Broly should be 2-C.
3-B.
They should not, your arguments aren't actually substantiated.Back to the tier they had before the High 3-A upgrade.
OP has refused to engage with any disagreements, despite the thread being ongoingThis whole thing about "Hateshinai" being a figure of speech isn't entirely correct. It can be, but the onus is on the OP to actually prove that it is, especially given what other translators that have been linked to before have said.
To me, this is the main reason why despite 48 hours passing, this thread should not be closed. Rereading the thread has shown me how there's been little actual engagement, and more of just dismissing the evidence for one arbitrary reason or another.OP has refused to engage with any disagreements, despite the thread being ongoing
I think the same admins who voted here to discuss it should be tagged, this is very wrong, we gave our argument and even so some didn't even read it and it's already outThis whole thing about "Hateshinai" being a figure of speech isn't entirely correct. It can be, but the onus is on the OP to actually prove that it is, especially given what other translators that have been linked to before have said.
Which brings me to another issue I have with the OP: the complete dismissal of anything that goes against their claim. Twice, people knowledgeable on the Japanese language have explained how the terminology used in the Daizenshuu and such is actually quite literal, yet it was just swept under the rug as "arbitrary scans and examples that don't mean anything."
So now we're just ignoring evidence we don't like?
It's as if people just have these preconceived notions about the DB universe and will stick to them no matter what is presented...
If there is little actual engagement, someone should probably remake the thread and have both sides present an organised argument there.To me, this is the main reason why despite 48 hours passing, this thread should not be closed. Rereading the thread has shown me how there's been little actual engagement, and more of just dismissing the evidence for one arbitrary reason or another.
Idk if there should be a whole thread remake but there should be a much clearer summary of both sides' arguments for the staff to look over.If there is little actual engagement, someone should probably remake the thread and have both sides present an organised argument there.
not me, I'm just a passing LOTR guy.
....not me, I'm just a passing LOTR guy.
It's been six pages already, this might be ironic coming from me, but it'll get quite long.Idk if there should be a whole thread remake but there should be a much clearer summary of both sides' arguments for the staff to look over.
...bonjour.....
IDK, it just seemed to be people saying "yeah, I agree." We don't decide what's right democratically and then refuse to engage. If that was the case, people would quickly vote for incorrect stuff.It's been six pages already, this might be ironic coming from me, but it'll get quite long.
That sort of stuff is how we end up with staff discussions. Not saying that should happen, but a deadlock like that is pretty bad.IDK, it just seemed to be people saying "yeah, I agree." We don't decide what's right democratically and then refuse to engage. If that was the case, people would quickly vote for incorrect stuff.
It's been six pages already, this might be ironic coming from me, but it'll get quite long.
Tbh I don't think so. A lot of posts are either FRA training, complaining about the CRT, complaining about people complaining about the CRT, etc.It's been six pages already, this might be ironic coming from me, but it'll get quite long.
The typical DB exhange. I suppose I'll concede on this point then.Tbh I don't think so. A lot of posts are either FRA training, complaining about the CRT, complaining about people complaining about the CRT, etc.
-_-
.Bruh, Luffy.
I have some questions anyways.
Where has the "infinite galaxies" statement gone to?
And where is the "infinitely expansive" statement? Because i remember that being the actual translation.
This whole thing about "Hateshinai" being a figure of speech isn't entirely correct. It can be, but the onus is on the OP to actually prove that it is, especially given what other translators that have been linked to before have said.