Battle power and power levels are the same thing, it was originally called battle power until Funimation changed it to power levels
Let it be known that we currently agree, the gap in AP via feats is too great to downscale given the site's standards. We're arguing about a scenario where Frieza has a reasonable AP, which might be a reality soon.
It depends a lot on whether or not power level and strength is being used interchangeably in that context. A lot of these statements are direct "strength" comparisons, so even then, it's still very much possible to downscale HAD Frieza been in a reasonable AP level. Which he is not, which is why we aren't downscaling him atm
Toddler Gohan has a power level of 1307 and is about three times stronger than Goku;
Just snipping this to let you know I've come around to agree with the downscaling. I just think that in light of the calc discussion, we should hold off until we know how that downscaling's gonna look
What Zarbon stuff?
Transformed Zarbon being several times stronger which would put at around 69.000 i think? (I believe his base is like 23.000).
Yeah I do this thing where I reply before I read the rest of the convo, that is my B.
Absolutely not, even something as little as a two-time increase would contradict the show as Vegeta was "around 30.000" after he killed Zarbon.
All good. I understand
I just wanted to comment on the top section. What do the site standards say about downscaling that doesn’t allow us to do so? Either way I’m fine with waiting for the new calc to get evaluated, but I’m just wondering why we wouldn’t be able to if things stayed the same.
such as with upscaling with multipliers, for a big downscale that leads the characters in high number, the bigger the value reached, the bigger the nummber of evidence is needed
I see on the multiplier page it talks about multiplying higher numbers, but there’s no mention of how downscaling is treated.
Well, nobody who scales to 5-C currently would scale to it. The weakest would be Base Saiyan Saga Goku, but I thought outliers were only for inconsistencies? Large Planetary isn’t really contradicted and iirc there’s a statement that says that at a BP of 10k you can destroy the planet. King Cold also calls Earth a small planet, so the statement wouldn’t even cap at 5-B, but it leaves large planetary in the air.
High 5-A is Dwarf Star level.
Saiyan saga would scale to High 5-A? I see thought it was 5-A, but Vegeta only tried destroy Earth to make sure Goku got killed, but if it’s High 5-A fair enough. I can see why it’d be considered an outlier.
Basically if the new calculation at the low end gets accepted this'll be the AP ratings, if not then the AP ratings from the first blog in the OP
El Manga Legendario, here
Will do
Vegeta's power as highlighted and hyped for being able to destroy the Earth, again, it took all he had to do so; Dwarf Star level is definitely not implied or consistent with the narrative at all.
Honestly, very fair
He threatened with his galic gun, which is listed as "higher" rating in his profile
Not exactly the question though.
Pretty certain that would not work,and also it contradicts Zarbon and his Multiplier.
Do you think Zarbon's Multiplier should stay btw?
Is it resolved?
