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I don't see HDE on Davoth's profile.
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Doom Revision
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ShionAH
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I mean the possibly rating seems unnecessary. Anyways Firestorm I changed the premise to 6D doom instead
Hell should be 5D not 4D because
- Resources from Hell are described as "Extra-dimensional." - Codex
- Hell is described to have a pan-dimensional existence.
- Doom 3 Video Disks: Described as a "new dimensional plane."
- Doom 3: Maelstrom: It contains evils that "transcended time and space."
- Book of the Seraphs - Part I: Davoth "created Jekkad, a realm superior to Urdak."
- Hell's power in the skilled hands of the Sentinel Priests would move to a higher planes of existence.
- Hell causes "transdimensional encounters" of "extradimensional beasts."
- Pandimensional expeditions were needed to research Hell.
- Hell's battles with the Doom Slayer were causing the multiverse to implode inward on itself.
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No. It's specifically winged Seraphim. I think it'd require a bit more proof that they're comparable.
Also, she uses her wings to fly, but not really do anything impressive.
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Urdak is 4d Hell is 5d and void is 6d
(My opinion)
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What requirements do we meet for Hell's Qualitative Superiority over 4-D?
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But do we have some example of Hell being bigger this way? Like is the 4-D multiverse a speck to Hell or something?
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As far as I know, the wiki is currently getting Hell 5-D.
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It depends on the interpretation of the following:
"Urdak itself exists in an anchor state, utilizing highly advanced dimensional shift technology to allow a static position at a sub-quantum level. This essentially inverts their position in relation to Hell; both planes of existence are fixed outside the bounds of the known universe, a 'lower' and 'higher' reality."
"Urdak itself exists in an anchor state, utilizing highly advanced dimensional shift technology to allow a static position at a sub-quantum level. This essentially inverts their position in relation to Hell; both planes of existence are fixed outside the bounds of the known universe, a 'lower' and 'higher' reality."
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The key phrase I'm referring to is "inverts their position."
Can a 4-D realm and a 5-D realm be inverted in their position?
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"A realm superior to Urdak."
We need to affirm the surrounding context that it means superior in size. How much bigger is Hell compared to Urdak?
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Is this demonstrated in the lore in any capacity?
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Oof
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- Resources from Hell are described as "Extra-dimensional." - Codex
- Hell is described to have a pan-dimensional existence.
- Doom 3 Video Disks: Described as a "new dimensional plane."
- Doom 3: Maelstrom: It contains evils that "transcended time and space."
- Book of the Seraphs - Part I: Davoth "A realm superior to Urdak."
- Hell's power in the skilled hands of the Sentinel Priests would move to a higher planes of existence.
- Hell causes "transdimensional encounters" of "extradimensional beasts."
- Pandimensional expeditions were needed to research Hell.
- Hell's battles with the Doom Slayer were causing the multiverse to implode inward on itself.
- Hell is a timeless realm.
- It should be greater than the Demonic Crucible, a weapon that can corrupt all realms.
- "Bound by the forces of chaos, Hell is unlimited by the boundaries of space, time, or dimension. Hell itself is a living thing, an entity possessing certain undeniable sentience." "Many worlds have fallen to Hell, each now bound to ruin, connected by pathways of darkness transcending space and time."
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Now that I look at this, shouldn't the profile for Hell have BDE type 2? By extension Davoth too.
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Btw why did you try to give Doomguy HDE based on him being able to touch someone with HDE? Because I'm 99.99% sure that's not how it works.
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Make it 100.
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Which is stated. Its larger than Urdak by 1 dimension.
- Hell's power in the skilled hands of the Sentinel Priests would move to a higher planes of existence.
- Doom 3 Video Disks: Described as a "new dimensional plane.
- Hell is described to have a pan-dimensional existence.
- Resources from Hell are described as "Extra-dimensional." - Codex
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As I said, we need something demonstrable. I had gone through all this in the initial Tier 1 thread.
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Davoth is physically 3-D.
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Have you read the initial thread?
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If Hell gets BDE type 2 then so does Davoth because Hell is literally a part of him.
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Are you knowledgeable in this verse babe?
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