Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness (Spoilers inbound)

[Dalesean027]

Also funny is how the newer introduced characters that are supposed to be powerhouses to a degree that being Shang-chi and Chavez (obviously excluding eternals) are within that 8-A to low 7-C range of AP are within similar brackets

Edit: I just realized both Chavez and Shang can fight Ego's Avatar

 

[Dalesean027]

Okay but yeah now that it seems that's outta the way with Wanda's physicals with Strange's AP what's the move are downscaling him to 6-C now or not

 

[Propellus]

And if Hulk made into this movie, what way would Wanda kill him?

 

[Lacku]

And if Hulk made into this movie, what way would Wanda kill him?

probably just brute force like she did against maria rambeau

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

And if Hulk made into this movie, what way would Wanda kill him?

Complete and utterly atomizing him before cutting off his access to the Green Door (If that exists in the MCU)

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

And if Hulk made into this movie, what way would Wanda kill him?

Not sure, what if hulk seemed to do pretty well agianst her

probably just brute force like she did against maria rambeau

She dropped a stone statue on her

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also 6-c physicals sound hella sus

 

[Dalesean027]

Also 6-c physicals sound hella sus

Yep ans that's been sorted I just wanted to get that out of the way since it was brought up before


anywho no one has responded to my asking about us scaling 6-C with magic now

 

[Propellus]

And Strange should be upgraded to being 8-C physically since he can physically fight with his evil self from another universe

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

And Strange should be upgraded to being 8-C physically since he can physically fight with his evil self from another universe

And fight Mordo

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Wanda survived an entire barrage of attacks from the souls of the damned, which could parry her magic

and she definitely wasn't magically shielding herself because she had to reach through in an attempt to break free

+ Only being stunned by America's strikes is good justification because it proves she's a stonewall

Seems pretty 6-C durability to me

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Wanda survived an entire barrage of attacks from the souls of the damned, which could parry her magic

and she definitely wasn't magically shielding herself because she had to reach through in an attempt to break free

+ Only being stunned by America's strikes is good justification because it proves she's a stonewall

Seems pretty 6-C durability to me

Not really, those demons were pretty fodder since they struggled to physically over power Kristen

what has Americas punch been calced at exactly?

not really

 

[Dalesean027]

Not really, those demons were pretty fodder since they struggled to physically over power Kristen

what has Americas punch been calced at exactly?

not really

8-A that's what the discussion was about because some argued for 6-C from some stuff when we had a 8-A calc for chavez punches

 

[Propellus]

what has Americas punch been calced at exactly?

8-A

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Not really, those demons were pretty fodder since they struggled to physically over power Kristen

what has Americas punch been calced at exactly?

not really

1. Seems more like PIS, and their showing against Wanda makes way more sense

2. 8-A

 

[Dalesean027]

Anywho as I said before the general concesus is just to scale Wanda to 8-A so we get back Strange's scaling.


What are we going to be rating him because he's got actual AP feats this movie we literally agreed from the start his physicals will scale to building level so I don't see any contentions there that's self explanatory since he fought mordo who can harm him that aside however again I'm gonna ask are we trying to get strange to downscale to 6-C or not and why for either or

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

1. Seems more like PIS, and their showing against Wanda makes way more sense

2. 8-A

Not really, the demons have sone weird soul/mind hax when they dogpile someone so that was what was probably preoccupy her

then she should be 8-a

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Not really, the demons have sone weird soul/mind hax when they dogpile someone so that was what was probably preoccupy her

then she should be 8-a

She still managed to momentarily reach through the souls despite

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

She still managed to momentarily reach through the souls despite

That doesn’t really matter tbh. It just means she gets soul resistance(maybe)

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

That doesn’t really matter tbh. It just means she gets soul resistance(maybe)

Why does it not matter? It was still while they were attacking her

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Yep ans that's been sorted I just wanted to get that out of the way since it was brought up before


anywho no one has responded to my asking about us scaling 6-C with magic now

Someone mentioned earlier than Wanda had to exert herself to fend off against his magic. Not sure how solid of a justification that is

Can Strange's fight against Thanos be used?

 

[Dalesean027]

Someone mentioned earlier than Wanda had to exert herself to fend off against his magic. Not sure how solid of a justification that is

Can Strange's fight against Thanos be used?

Both can probably be used the thanos fight didn't necessarily involve AP but he was still considered a threat who could push thanos and potentially harm him and yeah he could downscale from Wanda in some way

 

[Propellus]

Strange being Unknown with magic always bugged me

 

[Propellus]

And also, Strange should be 7-A with magic on his first key

 

[Dalesean027]

Yup that can now be changed and at the very very lowballed least he'd be 8-C or 8-A with with magic too imagine him not being able to harm himself lol and he could kill chavez for sure that's kinda the plot but I think 6-C should be fine

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

She still managed to momentarily reach through the souls despite

Again that doesn’t prove 6-c physicals

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Why does it not matter? It was still while they were attacking her

Because the demons are human lvl fodder lol

 

[Dalesean027]

I think it's definitely some sort of hax that Wanda just had resistances too they literally only come when someone dreamwalks into a dead body and tries to damn their soul

 

[Propellus]

Wanda is practically 8-A physically at this point

 

[Dalesean027]

Honestly trying to translate those souls into AP is like the the worst thing you could use for an AP justification because then either Christine is 6-C lol and that's just PIS(6-C since this is being used for that scaling) or Wanda struggling with 10-B demons is just PIS which then would just come down to if we want to scale wanda higher just to have her higher or not do so because writing one off as PIS vs another showing from the same movie just scenes apart would just require biased to one so the best way to list it as a soul resistance to wanda and not a AP feat

 

[Coolboy6]

Wanda still has superhuman durability regardless if it’s 6-C or 8-A ig now. Movie was good, though there were some flaws

 

[Dalesean027]

Wanda still has superhuman durability regardless if it’s 6-C or 8-A ig now. Movie was good, though there were some flaws

The 8-A comes from a calc done on Chavez's punches

 

[Coolboy6]

The 8-A comes from a calc done on Chavez's punches

Link? Because I’m too lazy to find it tbh

 

[Dalesean027]

Link? Because I’m too lazy to find it tbh

Lol I got u one sec

 

[Dalesean027]

Got all the calcs on a blog

• Wanda lifts the Castle: 49953888.7744 kg (Class M)
• America punches Wanda and parts clouds: 1.6400975e+12 J (Multi-City Block level)
• Black Bolt destroys the ground (Low End): 168926864.95 J (Small Building level)
• Black Bolt destroys the ground (High End): 1456994210.19 J (Building level)

The last calc no one will care about but I did it just because I could lol

This

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Anyone remember if she physically holds back or hits Chavez in the movie?

 

[Propellus]

Anyone remember if she physically holds back or hits Chavez in the movie?

All I know is she restrained her with magic

 

[Dalesean027]

Anyone remember if she physically holds back or hits Chavez in the movie?

She just tanks the punches to her face and body each time then holds her down with magic

 

[Propellus]

Although Wanda seemed unfazed from those punches

 

[Dalesean027]

Here it is