Doctor Doom vs Reinhard Heydrich

[Bepo4151]

Reinhard for reasons above

 

[DMUA]

What happens when Doom decides to Paradox Reinhard by killing him from before he met Mercurius? In fact, why not kill Mercurius along with him for good measure?

 

[ALRF]

>Doom

>Kills Mercurius

That instantly means Merc going Acta Est

 

[VoidGoji]

Reinhard uses his lance all the time, actually. He just chooses to not throw it. Its not OOC to him to use the lance.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Doom can certainly time paradox Reinhard, he is fond of doing that against stronger opponents.

He could also transmute Reinhard into energy, or drain Reinhard's power, which would work as he can absorb the power of Tier 2 people, or switch his soul with Reinhard's, or throw Reinhard 1 billion years into the past or into another universe, etc etc.

 

[ALRF]

For once, killing Mercurius want even do anything. By definition Reinhard is tied to the "true" Mercurius, not the sensory. So killing Mercu won't do shit to his Apoptosis nature. (dis but naught to satisfy DMUA response, i do know it's not applicable in a versus thread)

Considering that range = Gladsheimr popping out

What stops Gladsheimr from soulsucking Doom?

In anyway, it really depends on range. Close Range means Reinhard gets out spear. Far away means Reinhard gets out Gladsheimr

 

[Zensum]

@DMUA @Matt Feats for paradox in battle without prep?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

>Kill mercurius

I know you didn't just say doom can kill an outerversal being right?

Also i am inclined to agree with others Zensum that time travel doesn't seem to be in character without prep for doom unless i am shown evidence to the contrary.

 

[Schnee_One]

Switching to Rein for Space's reasons

 

[ALRF]

>Kill mercurius

I know you didn't just say doom can kill an outerversal being right?

Also i am inclined to agree with others Zensum that time travel doesn't seem to be in character without prep for doom unless i am shown evidence to the contrary.

He probably thought of the Sensory one who is 3-D in a sense

 

[VoidGoji]

Transmutating Reinhard into energy will trigger his Regen

Once Reinhard realizes Doom can in fact battle with him, he will go all out. Just saying.

 

[Schnee_One]

Wait he's resisted transmutation? When?

 

[ALRF]

I don't remember any feat of them being transmutated...

The only thing close to that would be Rusalka sucking Shirou Yusa soul only for the dude later to force himself again...but that's not even transmutation

I actually wonder if Doom can do anything against this and this

 

[VoidGoji]

I'm not saying he resists it.

I'm saying that converting him into pure energy will trigger his regen and allow him to create/regen the body.

 

[Schnee_One]

You can't form a new body after being transmuted, common misconception

 

[VoidGoji]

Even when the body itself can be recreated if the soul wishes?

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

> can form a new body from absolutely nothing

> can't form a new body from being transmuted

Oh, uhm-

 

[Schnee_One]

You don't form a new body, you reform your body.

Also Gladesheimr isn't applicable here no from absolutely nothing to "From a soul"

 

[ALRF]

I actually wonder if Doom can do anything against this and this

To explain this, to even harm Reinhard, you have to:

• Have Conceptual manipulation like Machina

Or

• Have AP higher than Reinhard's durability

Or

• Attack with Soul Manip powerful enough to overpower all of Valhalla soul

 

[VoidGoji]

And Machina has a little af chance of even causing relevant effects on Reinhard. Iirc.

 

[VoidGoji]

You don't form a new body, you reform your body.

Also Gladesheimr isn't applicable here no from absolutely nothing to "From a soul"

Reinhard can recreate the Legion after EE. Low-Godly Regen, but Gladsheimr upgrades that to Mid-Godly of higher levels (ALRF, correct me, but Gladsheimr could bring Schreiber back from contact with Machina's Briah.)

 

[Schnee_One]

I know you need to have concept manip to hurt Reinhard but isnt that the same for the entire LDO?

 

[ALRF]

IIRC, Wolfgang only gets his legs concepted but they do regenerate back

 

[LordGinSama]

Yup, Reinhard pulls a Reinhard for the reasons above.

 

[Fllflourine]

Doom is doomed FRA

 

[PaChi2]

Doom is doomed FRA

Easy pun. Good. +1

 

[Kepekley23]

Reinhard for reasons above

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

7 votes. Grace period starts.

 

[VoidGoji]

Lel.

Doom: Oh, hoi! I'm the new strongest 5-B!

Reinhard: -laughs in apoptosis- Welcome.


Doom: -ded-

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Reinhard for Matt's reasons

 

[Kepekley23]

I mean, that's, like, my opinion, dude.

EDIT: MFW i realize the fuckup

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

@DMUA its not OOC he launches its full properties of the gate is OOC not him bringing LLT in his hand like...all the damn time. The passive mind hax and soul hax still exist regardless if he launches it or not. And yes alrfy wolfie used machina's fist as a spring board while he was in MVS but still regen back.

Welp i'll go with rein for space's reason

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Grace period has ended. Should this be added?