"Do you wanna have a bad time?" - Sans Rebunks (SI, Resistances, KARMA)

[StrymULTRA]

Don't 2 staff disagreements mean that the thread is rejected thus should be closed?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Don't 2 staff disagreements mean that the thread is rejected thus should be closed?

Depends on staff instructions.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Depends on staff instructions.

Didn't know that.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Don't 2 staff disagreements mean that the thread is rejected thus should be closed?

It usually varies based on how much traffic, but 3 or more staff with voting rights vs no staff basically almost guarantees the former being the victor. If it's not a verse commonly invested among staff, sometimes 2 or bigger cases 1 is enough.

 

[Monsters_fight]

Agnaa disagrees with the thread and DarkDragon and Plank agree with him so it is: 0 staff that agree vs 3 staff that disagree.
Shion changed his profile picture and he might have quit for a bit.
Does that mean this CRT gets closed? Let's wait 1-2 days (or maybe even less, depending on what you think) and if nothing happens we should close this CRT.

Also, we should elaborate on that weakness thing here or make a new small CRT about it. The staff could give their input about it

 

[StrymULTRA]

0 staff that agree vs 3 staff that disagree.

If I wanna to be a bit pedantic, DDM and Planck disagreed with everything, Agnaa just on SI and did not comment on the rest.

Also, we should elaborate on that weakness thing here or make a new small CRT about it.

Definitely the latter as this one is already off the rails.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

This CRT is cooked, close it smh.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Regardless, yeah.

If in a few days Shion won't say anything here, it's fair to assume he just dropped it and thus should be closed, at least in my view.

 

[Ebihara]

He posted somthing on his wall seeming very frustrated.

 

[StrymULTRA]

He posted somthing on his wall seeming very frustrated.

He's taking Sans way too seriously tbh.

Tho he did make a spite downgrade on Spamton only because he's my fav character after the Sans downgrade lol.

 

[Monsters_fight]

He's taking Sans way too seriously tbh.

Tho he did make a spite downgrade on Spamton only because he's my fav character after the Sans downgrade lol.

Yeah, who cares if Sans gets 3 more abilities or not. He will be High 8-C+ and that's all that matters

 

[Agnaa]

Huh? Not really, it's just them becoming actually better, it's acknowledged many times in game. I feel like you are overusing with the whole "it's just meta" stuff.

I don't know what you mean.

Huh, no? It's just if you kill everyone but spare Vulkin, he will say you held back.

Nah, just don't kill all 40 monsters in Hotland/Core, basically just rush to Mettaton.

Yeah mb, rushed that post out since I had to go to work. Looking into it more, I saw the dialogue which came if you killed enough people in Hotlands/CORE but somehow skipped/spared/fled Mettaton NEO (requires cheating or glitches), and thought it was new, but it's just the "Neutral ending, killed all other main bosses" dialogue, which I failed to recognise.

Actually looking into this, an increase in LOVE does make Frisk more cruel.

LV1

LV2 to 4

LV5 to 7

LV8 and higher

Of course, Frisk's mentality in the Genocide route is still more important, but it's still something to consider.

I'm not super convinced by this. The more general but weak argument is that this still just shows correlation, not causation, but I do know that Sans' judgement speech presents a more causative framework (but even that seems a bit more limited to the ease of killing, rather than of being forced to kill). More specifically and imo more convincing, Frisk acts a lot more empathetic/willing to play along in high-EXP neutral routes than they do in Snowdin on Genocide with minimal EXP (LV 5).

That plus the callousness Frisk presents (i.e. describing Monster Kid as "in the way"), while still being able to abandon Genocide and go back to being relatively normal, makes me really think all this stuff is reflective of the actions which would be expected given the amount of killing Frisk has done, rather than representing some mindhax that forces them to do bad things.

You are making assumptions now ey? What he said WAS pretty vague, he also literally just learned that LOVE and EXP makes Frisk more violent. Though doesn't matter I dont want to take your nagging

"This argument is as wack as it was last time [when I disagreed]", "We shouldn't give SI to every monster for this sort of reasoning", I do think it was pretty clear.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

No point in arguing since this thread is rejected. Also, please close it.