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So, uhh, this wiki gave birth to a character called Pluto in the Devil May Cry series, regarded as the previous Demon King before Mundus, who separated heaven and earth and all that jazz cuz of some instability (?) Shenanigans. However, there's a major issue here—such a character doesn't actually exist in the main series. His 'existence' comes from an old translation found in a particular library section that says, 'Pluto shall come on the promised date and separate heaven and earth. The one with black wings of treachery shall come and stand in Pluto's way.' But, alas, the original Japanese text doesn't mention Pluto at all. It merely says 冥王 (king of the Underworld), not 冥王星 (Pluto) which makes it clear that it's referring to Mundus and also recontextualizes the rest of the statement to clarify it's talking about Sparda.
It's not a full mistranslation or bad translation per se, more so a localization issue. When 冥王 is mentioned in general, it's either referring to Hades or Pluto, the most popular hell kings overall that has such a title. It was likely written this way to make it sound fancier, given the context of it being part of a prophecy, which i dont really mind in the slightest, but what's not fine is inserting a new character into the lore based on really flimsy evidence.
Now, speaking of Sparda—ironically enough, the claim that "pluto" was the first one to 'separate the Human World from the Demon World' is actually referring to Sparda himself. What makea me that sure? It's simple: setting aside the poorly translated and low quality scan, the original text clearly shows it's retelling Sparda's story again;
As you can see, it starts by stating that Heaven (the Demon world) easily overwhelmed Earth (the Human world) and constantly split it apart, leaving Earth's inhabitants completely helpless whenever the realms clashed. However, at some point, a certain Demon—a black horned one—arrived and drove a massive stake into the Earth to prevent it from splitting ever again, turning it into an eternal seal. These latter parts clearly refer to Sparda, as he is the only Demon with black horns from older times we know about and that created an eternal seal, which is referring to his famous feat of separating the Demon and Human worlds with a dimensional veil. I'd also like to point out that this supposed 'Pluto' looks exactly the same as how the same manga depicted Sparda in the beginning; they have the exact same design.
You might also notice a certain difference between the translations; the poor quality scan from the wiki says, 'he hammered a giant spike into the earth so that heaven and earth would never again be split apart,' while mine simply states, 'he drove a massive stake into the earth so that the earth would never split again.'
The biggest difference is his includes the bolded parts, which, to say the least, is badly translated and interpreted. Furthermore, the latter translation makes more sense with 'never split again,' as the splitting here refers to how Heaven constantly overturned the Earth, as noted in the first scan.
Not to mention the fact that there are a couple of inconsistencies in the claim: 1) the manga and game descriptions contradict each other—the former wants to keep the worlds together, while the latter wants to separate them; and 2) the creation myth of the verse has no mention of Pluto being the cause of the splitting whatsoever. But that's another drama I don't wanna bother with.
I can already see you guys mentioning PoC to prove his existence, but that's irrelevant; the games canon is dubious and it only means he's canon to PoC itself.
Kamiya's Twitter post also doesn't disprove Mundus being the one in the prophecy; it's all a huge ass communication issue. The "Pluto" scan doesn't say 冥王星 (What's used in the tweet); it says 冥王 (what's used in the game), which is an entirely different thing. To make an analogy, let's say you made a game and someone mistranslated a title as a name, and you were asked if X is that name. Obviously, you'd say no. You can even tell he's confused from his "...." In that post lol.
TL;DR: Nuke Pluto's profiles or make it PoC exclusive.
Agree: @Ningenron ,@BestMGQScalerEver, @Drite77, @Deagonx, @Maverick_Zero_X,
Neutral:
Disagree: @SuperSonicTL, @Random-Helper323 (?), @TISSG7Redgrave, @Minos_the_Judge, @Tony_di_bugalu,
It's not a full mistranslation or bad translation per se, more so a localization issue. When 冥王 is mentioned in general, it's either referring to Hades or Pluto, the most popular hell kings overall that has such a title. It was likely written this way to make it sound fancier, given the context of it being part of a prophecy, which i dont really mind in the slightest, but what's not fine is inserting a new character into the lore based on really flimsy evidence.
Now, speaking of Sparda—ironically enough, the claim that "pluto" was the first one to 'separate the Human World from the Demon World' is actually referring to Sparda himself. What makea me that sure? It's simple: setting aside the poorly translated and low quality scan, the original text clearly shows it's retelling Sparda's story again;
As you can see, it starts by stating that Heaven (the Demon world) easily overwhelmed Earth (the Human world) and constantly split it apart, leaving Earth's inhabitants completely helpless whenever the realms clashed. However, at some point, a certain Demon—a black horned one—arrived and drove a massive stake into the Earth to prevent it from splitting ever again, turning it into an eternal seal. These latter parts clearly refer to Sparda, as he is the only Demon with black horns from older times we know about and that created an eternal seal, which is referring to his famous feat of separating the Demon and Human worlds with a dimensional veil. I'd also like to point out that this supposed 'Pluto' looks exactly the same as how the same manga depicted Sparda in the beginning; they have the exact same design.
You might also notice a certain difference between the translations; the poor quality scan from the wiki says, 'he hammered a giant spike into the earth so that heaven and earth would never again be split apart,' while mine simply states, 'he drove a massive stake into the earth so that the earth would never split again.'
The biggest difference is his includes the bolded parts, which, to say the least, is badly translated and interpreted. Furthermore, the latter translation makes more sense with 'never split again,' as the splitting here refers to how Heaven constantly overturned the Earth, as noted in the first scan.
Not to mention the fact that there are a couple of inconsistencies in the claim: 1) the manga and game descriptions contradict each other—the former wants to keep the worlds together, while the latter wants to separate them; and 2) the creation myth of the verse has no mention of Pluto being the cause of the splitting whatsoever. But that's another drama I don't wanna bother with.
I can already see you guys mentioning PoC to prove his existence, but that's irrelevant; the games canon is dubious and it only means he's canon to PoC itself.
Kamiya's Twitter post also doesn't disprove Mundus being the one in the prophecy; it's all a huge ass communication issue. The "Pluto" scan doesn't say 冥王星 (What's used in the tweet); it says 冥王 (what's used in the game), which is an entirely different thing. To make an analogy, let's say you made a game and someone mistranslated a title as a name, and you were asked if X is that name. Obviously, you'd say no. You can even tell he's confused from his "...." In that post lol.
TL;DR: Nuke Pluto's profiles or make it PoC exclusive.
Agree: @Ningenron ,@BestMGQScalerEver, @Drite77, @Deagonx, @Maverick_Zero_X,
Neutral:
Disagree: @SuperSonicTL, @Random-Helper323 (?), @TISSG7Redgrave, @Minos_the_Judge, @Tony_di_bugalu,
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