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Anyway What do you think about the rest of the thread?
Also there's something pretty obvious that I forgot to add. It's Large size type 10, Empyrean Dao Physiology , Abstract Existence type 1 for both Yang Qi (Sage Monarch) (second key?) and Proud Heaven (first key)
Since they are comparable to Greensura who is larger than God realm (and also the essence of the whole God realm, similar to Yang Qi but his God realm aka Sage Monarch Empire, Proud Heaven is Great Necropolis and essence of God realm), and Proud Heaven he will have Abstract existence type 1 because the essence of God realm is infinite order, infinite fate, The very concept of "everything", Three Realms (Truth/Reality, Illusion/Imagination,Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana) and his body aka Great Necropolis is made from quinessence of Burying. Yang Qi (first key) should have Higher-Dimensional existence since his body contain countless multiverses (quote in 2-A Godmyth part) and this can scale to Leef-Dao and Proud Heaven (who stronger than him at that time)
For Empyrean Dao physiology, Proud Heaven swallowed them to increase his own power
Since many people have asked about NEP layers of Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana in particular and Sage Monarch in general, I will explain it as well as Upgrade TD3 for Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana. Of course this is not strange because verse had tons of concepts about NEP before these even existed lol
The former thread of Nevasanna..
Agree with OP.
Just want to add that I forgot one obvious little thing in the previous CRT. MC gave everyone limited lifespans with his system but he couldn't apply it to himself. Immortality type 1 for him.
What is currently left to do here?
@Rabbit2002Just a few things in this thread outside of OP. If this was my thread, I'd just create a new thread and close this but this is not my thread.
It depends on whether or not Rabbit2002 wants to wait for mods or leave it for a new thread.
Just a few things in this thread outside of OP. If this was my thread, I'd just create a new thread and close this but this is not my thread.
It depends on whether or not Rabbit2002 wants to wait for mods or leave it for a new thread.
Sorry for late reply but Yeah I think there's no need for a new thread for this
Also, if somebody explains exactly what needs to be evaluated here, I can ask some of our thread moderators for input afterwards.
Also there's something pretty obvious that I forgot to add. It's Large size type 10, Empyrean Dao Physiology , Abstract Existence type 1 for both Yang Qi (Sage Monarch) (second key?) and Proud Heaven (first key)
Since they are comparable to Greensura who is larger than God realm (and also the essence of the whole God realm, similar to Yang Qi but his God realm aka Sage Monarch Empire, Proud Heaven is Great Necropolis and essence of God realm), and Proud Heaven he will have Abstract existence type 1 because the essence of God realm is infinite order, infinite fate, The very concept of "everything", Three Realms (Truth/Reality, Illusion/Imagination,Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana) and his body aka Great Necropolis is made from quinessence of Burying. Yang Qi (first key) should have Higher-Dimensional existence since his body contain countless multiverses (quote in 2-A Godmyth part) and this can scale to Leef-Dao and Proud Heaven (who stronger than him at that time)
For Empyrean Dao physiology, Proud Heaven swallowed them to increase his own power
Since many people have asked about NEP layers of Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana in particular and Sage Monarch in general, I will explain it as well as Upgrade TD3 for Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana. Of course this is not strange because verse had tons of concepts about NEP before these even existed lol
The former thread of Nevasanna..
Agree with OP.
Just want to add that I forgot one obvious little thing in the previous CRT. MC gave everyone limited lifespans with his system but he couldn't apply it to himself. Immortality type 1 for him.
They have. A few of those abilities are due what has been accepted. For example, 2-A and containing 2-A is accepted and thus HDE for those that do contain it within themselves.@Rabbit2002
Did you provide sufficiently thorough explanations for our thread moderators to evaluate this discussion based on your post alone? It did not seem so to me.
Well, I still do not think that any of our discussion moderators or administrators would understand what is going on and what they need to do here from the latest posts from either of you.
This one must make another CRT to get accept. Because we never discuss that in this CRT. We just accept 10th deathless become TD 3 (and 9th i think)Transduality type 3 and number of truth states/layers for Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana
What has been accepted is OP, which I have applied. My earlier post was regarding what has been accepted and the corresponding abilities due to that. As for the rest, Rabbit2002 has given sufficient explanation.Well, I still do not think that any of our discussion moderators or administrators would understand what is going on and what they need to do here from the latest posts from either of you.
Okay. So there are just minor remaining details left to handle here then?What has been accepted is OP, which I have applied. My earlier post was regarding what has been accepted and the corresponding abilities due to that. As for the rest, Rabbit2002 has given sufficient explanation.
As for my own addition to this thread, if this post proposing it and this post explaining the context isn't enough, then there is nothing to discuss regarding this.
Tier 1
3 pages of thread-worth
Tier 1 has been applied, what's left is the stuff in the thread that wasn't in the OP I quoted above.Ant plz, y do this
@Rabbit2002
Did you provide sufficiently thorough explanations for our thread moderators to evaluate this discussion based on your post alone? It did not seem so to me.
My bad, I will give it more context for everyone to understand anywayWell, I still do not think that any of our discussion moderators or administrators would understand what is going on and what they need to do here from the latest posts from either of you.
Elizha was fine with it here so I guess it's okay?This one must make another CRT to get accept. Because we never discuss that in this CRT. We just accept 10th deathless become TD 3 (and 9th i think)
I not see we discuss about Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana
If being outside the framework of Tier 1-A hierarchy of High 1-A from Gu Chensa's point, what are your arguments for tier 0 because MC is beyond characters like Gu Chensa, and if so, can you elaborate?
I could see High 1-A being fine.
I would say these both required a similar amount of input. I would keep the other option available.
I think staff like @Planck69 and @Sir_Ovens can help with their input.
On the other things, I guess they are fine; though, large size type 10 might be type 11 if tier 1-A and/or up is agreed with.
Verse has a hierarchy of realms, the higher the realm, the longer the lifespan. Empyrean Life/Tianshou (天寿境界) is the realm when the person will have the lifespan of heaven and earth, if not killed by anyone or Heavenly Dao/Dao of Heaven/Way of Heaven (reality and all its metaphysical aspects) does not end, they will be immortal.I feel like I'm missing something regarding Type 1 Immortality, where is the info that tells us the lifespans in question are unlimited? So far, I'm only seeing mentions of longevity
Still you must make another CRT to discuss about that, moreover, there are some that we must discuss about (yeah about the infinite layer, and 9th truth state)Elizha was fine with it here so I guess it's okay?
Ant already invited staffs in here, so I'm not sure if they're necessary? But if the staffs agree to have another thread for this, that's fineStill you must make another CRT to discuss about that, moreover, there are some that we must discuss about (yeah about the infinite layer, and 9th truth state)
Well ant already invite but just one staff appear, and also not talking about that. I have some opinion about that, but i dont want make this CRT more long because i think it already clear and acceptedAnt already invited staffs in here, so I'm not sure if they're necessary? But if the staffs agree to have another thread for this, that's fine
And why are 9th truth states a problem?
Actually it's twoWell ant already invite but just one staff appear, and also not talking about that. I have some opinion about that, but i dont want make this CRT more long because i think it already clear and accepted
Thank you very much for helping out.Type 2 negation seems good then, but the statements such as "you can live forever as long as you aren't killed by external forces" should be noted in the description, since I didn't spot them in the ability description you initially wrote up. Thats what really makes it clear this is Type 2 negation, rather than nerfing somebody's longevity
Immortality type 2 is surviving injuries that would otherwise be lethal to a normal person as per its description.Type 2 negation seems good then, but the statements such as "you can live forever as long as you aren't killed by external forces" should be noted in the description, since I didn't spot them in the ability description you initially wrote up. Thats what really makes it clear this is Type 2 negation, rather than nerfing somebody's longevity
You've quoted something quite literally stating they'll live forever so long as they aren't killed and equated that to immortality type 2. Uh... Immortality type 1 is being able to live forever as long as you aren't killed.Characters with this degree of immortality can indefinitely survive injuries that would otherwise be lethal to a normal person, without needing to heal.
I meant to spell Type 1. That was a typo, my badImmortality type 2 is surviving injuries that would otherwise be lethal to a normal person as per its description.
You've quoted something quite literally stating they'll live forever so long as they aren't killed and equated that to immortality type 2. Uh... Immortality type 1 is being able to live forever as long as you aren't killed.
You should elaborate on your point because this is the weirdest staff evaluation I've ever seen.
Apologies then.I meant to spell Type 1. That was a typo, my bad
Basically reread what I said with Type 1 in mind
Reducing infinite lifespan to a limited one is technically negating it as reducing infinite by any finite measure is still infinite. Additionally, the system only limits their lifespan based on their cultivation, the limit of their lifespan being literal (scan linked in this post).Anyhow, my point still stands. The original ability description in this thread only linked examples of decreasing long lifespans, rather than flat-out negating eternal life. Just fix that and it'll be all good
Zhang Xuan gong and Tang Chuan looked at the virtual interface that suddenly appeared and their expressions turned ugly. "This is all because of Gu Chensha. We are indestructible. Even if the multiverse disappears, our Null Immortality realm is eternal. We have transcended the world and dimensions. Unfortunately, our lifespan is only a few billion years. We don't even have the lifespan of a planet. How can we build the entire world?" - Chapter 1107
张玄功和唐川看着自己突然出现的虚拟面板,脸色也很不好看,“这都是古尘沙捣鬼,我们本身是不死不灭的,哪怕是多元宇宙消失,我们身为无不朽的境界,就已经亘古长存,完全超越了世间和空间,可惜现在寿命只有区区几十亿年,连一个星球的寿命都不如,怎么建设整个世界?” - Chapter 1107
No worriesApologies then.
I'm not saying the negation isn't valid. I think Type 1 Immortality negation is valid. It's just that the original description should've included the scan that states "Once you reach the realm of Tianyuan, as long as you are not killed by external forces, you can live forever"Reducing infinite lifespan to a limited one is technically negating it as reducing infinite by any finite measure is still infinite. Additionally, the system only limits their lifespan based on their cultivation, the limit of their lifespan being literal (scan linked in this post).
As for the 'system', perhaps you're aware of the average Japanese isekai MCs being transported into another world where they can check their stats on a panel right in-front of them. The 'system' is similar, regardless of the frustration of those eternal, their lifespan is set.
I see, my bad then.I'm not saying the negation isn't valid. I think Type 1 Immortality negation is valid. It's just that the original description should've included the scan that states "Once you reach the realm of Tianyuan, as long as you are not killed by external forces, you can live forever"