Then wouldn't it be more appropriate to have a thread on that general issue instead of going back and forth here?
Geryon doesnt use the electricity, Cavalier Angelo who is riding Geryon does. All of Cavalier Angelo’s attacks are MHS based on using Trish as a power source along with using her techniques. You can watch Dante fight Cavalier Angelo on DMD to see it’s CTG attacks, movements and abilities etc.
Alot of people doesnt know how to deal with gameplay feats since they are so used to anime and animated media, and even so, there is another problem which is people trying to disproof feats using bad gameplay of a player aim dodging instead of timed dodge (which would be a perfect dodge where in lore the character reacted really fast to the attack instead of aim dodging).
Hmm you sure you played DMC 5 ? Because DMC 5 states Trish throws lighting bolts, and also states Cavalier is capable of throwing lighting bolts at you and he does have cloud to ground lighting attack in gameplay, she also conducts eletricity at dante on DMC 1 at 2:24 and cloud to ground teleport at 32:19 and here on the anime Trish conducts eletricity on beryls rocket at 12:43, she does have AP for it, just check the profiles and the DMC 4 novel hints Trish is capable of fighting Savior who is capable of destroying Fortuna, and even by Low ball stantards she would still get bare minimum 8-C by scalling and being able to hurt with the power of Lighting on the description of her move set (and lets not forget the lighting statements from DMC 5).
She out speed Blitz because she is above lesser demons,which is what Blitz is, a lesser demon.
Yes, because the dude that specializes in speed is a lesser demon, the lowest class of demons.
He doesn't literally teleport, he travels as lightning. Yes, it does work like that, nowhere is it stated that Blitz is faster than higher demons and no where is it stated that Blitz's speed are formidable to higher demons.
That's what i said "teleports with speed". And no, considering how he dodged Dante's blow through that "lightning speed", it DEFINITELY doesn't scale like that. For us to scale like that there needs to be some mention, some proof or some consistent showings of Trish clearly being as fast as Blitz or faster. And considering Blitz's feat, yeah no.
Well, for 1 when was trish equal to the savior? And 2 how is the savior superior to all demons "in all regards"?
Dodging an attack from a casual Dante sure proves Blitz is faster than Dante, I guess that means DMC4 Nero is comparable to DMC4 Dante. Being superior to lesser demons should be enough but traveling as lightning bolt just like Blitz, attacking with lightning bolts, powering a demon armorsuit that travels and fights as a lightning bolt is also enough proof for me.
It's the same ******* move as it is in DMC 3 except with more fluid animations.
No he actually makes a blocking animation behind if he's hit behind in DMC5, he moves his arm.
Locking is game mechanics though. And they still cannot do anything during that and he's still quite clearly faster than them. So at most if you wanna count locking as legit, then it's still at most just MHS perception. And that's for DMC4.
Yes, it's literally the same ability. DMC5 just animated it properly instead of what happened in DMC3 and 4 where Dante's whole body snaps to the direction the attack hit. It is the exact same ability, you can't say it's not.
Lmao, you said Trish dont have enought proof of MHS and just showed you the proofs, she can even harm Lady who have 9-A and deal serious damage against demons who can tank Kalina Ann from Lady which is 9-A on AP.
So Nero, Dante, Trish and Lady's bullets are faster than Blitz? They are faster than Blitz in gameplay
Not saying that, but if you agree that gameplay is whack where do you draw the line? At this point it's just "we take what we want and we discount what we want". If we take them we take all, not just the parts that can be used to inflate the speed stats.
No, I'm questioning your consistency when it comes to "x attack doesn't look as fast as y attack therefore x attack is not y attack speed" , this is what you believed and the argument you are using for Cavalier Angelo speed but I pointed out the flaw in that argument.
Sure now im asking "were do you draw the line with these? Do we only take what you want so that we can inflate the stats to oblivion and back? Is that how this works? We take the most flawed feats ever from gameplay and spend 4 freaking days tryna say they are legit, but clear anti-feats from that are just disregarded? Is that the game we're playing?"
where did you even debunk ?? You gave your points (that isnt backed up), and i still keep responding all your points with explanation and scans to back up.
backed by evidence that pokes holes on your argument. also i dont think we have a say in the matter, if the author intents that a feat is valid then the feat is valid regardless of what we think
