Deltarune has a bad time

[GodlyCharmander]

Let's make this straightfoward


Kris, Ralsei and Susie take on Sans' Boss fight

• Speed is equalized
• Chapter 1 Party
• Sans has knowledge of their skills
• "Genocide Route" Party
• Both are in-character, but are trying to stop/kill each other
• They have access to two of every item in the game.
• Win by incapacitation, death, or BFR
• Kris' Time Manipulation is restricted (Because it's currently being discussed if it should be removed)

Bone Man:

The Fun Gang: 7 (@CBslayeR, @Myguy, @Armerish, @FarerPurple, @Gabs22_Gamer, @ProPlayerJohn, @FinePoint)

Incon:

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Btw, if Chapter 2 CRT gets accepted, I'll unequalize speed and use ch. 2

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Bumpy

 

[Comiphorous]

While neither party are likely to try and kill each other, the most likely outcome being them sparing each other, i'd say incon, due to the fact he knows he cant win in a fight, so he's just gonna lock them in place so neither of them will be able to do anything.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

While neither party are likely to try and kill each other, the most likely outcome being them sparing each other, i'd say incon, due to the fact he knows he cant win in a fight, so he's just gonna lock them in place so neither of them will be able to do anything.

I should have pointed that out, but I'll adjust the conditions

 

[Comiphorous]

With the new conditions, i'd still say its incon, as he still knows kris will come back even if he wins (which, may i add, he can do very easily), so he's going to use his infinite turn early on.

 

[Myguy]

so kris can do the same thing that frisk does right?(save and load)
its just a matter of time until kris adapts to sans attacks
kris fra

 

[GodlyCharmander]

With the new conditions, i'd still say its incon, as he still knows kris will come back even if he wins (which, may i add, he can do very easily), so he's going to use his infinite turn early on.

It's because of the anomaly, though.
SAVE and LOAD aren't treated as canonical powers in Deltarune, and Toby stated it functioned with different rules, so it doesn't really apply

 

[Myguy]

It's because of the anomaly, though.
SAVE and LOAD aren't treated as canonical powers in Deltarune, and Toby stated it functioned with different rules, so it doesn't really apply

so...kris cant adapt here?

 

[GodlyCharmander]

so...kris cant adapt here?

We're making a CRT to get it removed right now, though.
I'll just restrict it for now.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

With the new conditions, i'd still say its incon, as he still knows kris will come back even if he wins (which, may i add, he can do very easily), so he's going to use his infinite turn early on.

I restricted Kris' Time Hax as we're discussing if it should be removed or not in a CRT.

 

[Comiphorous]

Even if we go by Kris' profile, it still doesn't matter, since sans knows about them, meaning he knows he cant win, so he's just gonna lock the team in a stalemate until they give up, so Incon

 

[Comiphorous]

But, since its restricted, sans should take this low-diff, they haven't dealt with platformer attacks like sans uses, so his first attacks should kill them.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

But, since its restricted, sans should take this low-diff, they haven't dealt with platformer attacks like sans uses, so his first attacks should kill them.

They have more than 90 HP, so they'll likely survive, also they can share damage too, and revive each other.

 

[Comiphorous]

Point still stands, theres no way they will be able to survive for very long with the lack of experience with platformer attacks.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Point still stands, theres no way they will be able to survive for very long with the lack of experience with platformer attacks.

Counted.

 

[CBslayeR]

I'm gonna vote the Deltarune party here, they can make more mistakes here since they don't share damage, can revive each other, use healing items/magic and defend themselves; but what really makes me think they win this is through Ralsei's sleep spell, Sans is lazy and will tire pretty easily considering he has to dodge up to 3 attacks at a time.

The Sans fight takes 24 turns to complete minimum, that means the fight can possibly end in 8 turns or more. That's also being generous and assuming he doesn't get surprised by a second like in the end of the Sans fight where Frisk attacked twice in one turn. He will also tire extremely fast due to having to dodge so many attacks, making Pacify way more effective here.

 

[Myguy]

its a 3v1
im pretty sure that sans is going to get overwhelmed here

also, ralsei can end the fight with pacify when sans get tired

deltarune party fra

 

[GodlyCharmander]

I'm gonna vote the Deltarune party here

Counted, but some stuff to point out.

They can make more mistakes here since they don't share damage, can revive each other, use healing items/magic and defend themselves;

Defending is not relevant, Sans do 1 HP per frame regardless.

That's also being generous and assuming he doesn't get surprised by a second like in the end of the Sans fight where Frisk attacked twice in one turn.

Frisk did that by breaking the rules of the game/universe, aka, reality warping, otherwise, Sans could dodge them in his sleep. Kris, Susie and Ralsei can't do that.

Still, counted.

 

[Myguy]

Frisk did that by breaking the rules of the game/universe, aka, reality warping, otherwise, Sans could dodge them in his sleep. Kris, Susie and Ralsei can't do that.

so kris and his gang cant kills sans huh?
well, it seems that ralsei is their only hope
pacify works when the enemy is tired right?
sans stamina is dogshit,so he would get tired pretty fast
since everyone is in character ralsei will cast pacify

 

[Comiphorous]

Aren't they trying to kill him though? so, while in character, they're still trying to kill him, so they're probably not going to pacify him.

 

[Comiphorous]

Unless i misunderstand the 'Genocide Route' Party thing

 

[CBslayeR]

Aren't they trying to kill him though? so, while in character, they're still trying to kill him, so they're probably not going to pacify him.

They'll probably go for the pacify once they notice he's tired or they get fed up by him dodging

 

[Armerish]

Aren't they trying to kill him though? so, while in character, they're still trying to kill him, so they're probably not going to pacify him.

The OP say they can stop him too.

 

[Armerish]

And my vote also go to the Fun Gang FRA.

 

[CBslayeR]

so kris and his gang cant kills sans huh?
well, it seems that ralsei is their only hope
pacify works when the enemy is tired right?
sans stamina is dogshit,so he would get tired pretty fast
since everyone is in character ralsei will cast pacify

they can eventually hit sans, sans wouldn't have tried to freeze frisk if he could dodge forever

 

[Comiphorous]

Aight, then changing my vote to fun gang

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Unless i misunderstand the 'Genocide Route' Party thing

Canonically, even if you go the Genocide Route, the party can stop or reason with the King, and even if you defeat him, they will pacify him regardless of your choices.
Pacify is in-character even for Genocide Route.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

B o o m p

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Fun Gang FRA.

 

[PROPLAYEN]

Deltarune
Kris and Susie can attack while Ralsei heals and Pacifies when sans gets tired

 

[FinePoint]

Pacify FRA

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Graaaace

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Btw, grace ended ages ago.
I assume a 3-on-1 can't be added to their profile, right?

 

[CBslayeR]

Btw, grace ended ages ago.
I assume a 3-on-1 can't be added to their profile, right?

i mean their entire schtick is fighting together so i'd imagine it'd be fine, ask a moderator if its okay first

 

[Blahblah9755]

2 on 1/2 is the max for a team battle that isn’t based on summons.

 

[FinePoint]

It can't be added because there's more than 2 on a team.
We could do a different battle where we only pick 2 of the party members, and that would be addable.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

RIP. Kris and Ralsei should work, then. Kris can induce Sans to sleep with Pirouette, and Ralsei can Pacify.