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Dont get me started my dude lul..MrKingOfNegativity said:
I have a notorious tracer bias. But the research and animation was just bad, yes.
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Death Battle Sephi vs Vergil Discussion Thread
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I have a notorious tracer bias. But the research and animation was just bad, yes.
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Worst episode of DB was Bomberman Vs Dig Dug actually. How does a 9-B character with peak human speed beat a 3-A character with at least Massively Hypersonic speed?
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For better or worse, vs wiki was the place that introduced me the first concise definition of the word 'bad matchup' or 'stomp'.DarkDragonMedeus said:
I enjoyed that db when it first came out but now I am like...
Ehhh.
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@Mr King, yeah, the DMC fanbase do kind of reflect the Title. The Devil May Cry? More like the Devil Will Cry. Quote from that one Newgrounds video
@Kink My favorites are still Fox Vs Bucky, Godzilla vs Gamera, Deathstroke Vs Deadpool, Guts vs Nightmare, and Pokemon vs Digimon. And yeah, much of their videos have good entertainment, but their outcomes are hit and miss, and research is flawed even if their outcomes are good.
@Kink My favorites are still Fox Vs Bucky, Godzilla vs Gamera, Deathstroke Vs Deadpool, Guts vs Nightmare, and Pokemon vs Digimon. And yeah, much of their videos have good entertainment, but their outcomes are hit and miss, and research is flawed even if their outcomes are good.
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Ah, Guts VS Nightmare.
A.K.A.: "The Black Swordsman kills a Planet level being because he fights monsters all the time and it's a monster or something right?"
The animation in that one was good, though. Not gonna lie.
A.K.A.: "The Black Swordsman kills a Planet level being because he fights monsters all the time and it's a monster or something right?"
The animation in that one was good, though. Not gonna lie.
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My personal least favorite DBs
Peach vs Zelda: I don't care what anyone from ScrewAttack or VSBW tries to tell me, there is no way in any reality that I will believe a literal goddess with destructive magic and genuine combat training will be beaten by a dumb bimbo who throws turnips and attacks with a parasol (I know that's strawman-ing but the point remains). Plus the reasoning they gave in that episode was just awful: "she can turn one soccer ball into three with a kick so that means she can beat Zelda"
Doctor Doom vs Darth Vader: Not only is this a horrible mismatch but they even explained why in their analysis. "Doom can resist all types of telekinetic attacks and has nearly impenetrable armor" Well, good thing his opponent doesn't solely rely on telekinetic attacks and a light sword! Oh wait...
Thor vs Wonder Woman: Same as Doom vs Vader. According to them "Wonder Woman can only be killed by swords" Oh so the guy with a hammer as his only melee weapon stands a huge chance.
Peach vs Zelda: I don't care what anyone from ScrewAttack or VSBW tries to tell me, there is no way in any reality that I will believe a literal goddess with destructive magic and genuine combat training will be beaten by a dumb bimbo who throws turnips and attacks with a parasol (I know that's strawman-ing but the point remains). Plus the reasoning they gave in that episode was just awful: "she can turn one soccer ball into three with a kick so that means she can beat Zelda"
Doctor Doom vs Darth Vader: Not only is this a horrible mismatch but they even explained why in their analysis. "Doom can resist all types of telekinetic attacks and has nearly impenetrable armor" Well, good thing his opponent doesn't solely rely on telekinetic attacks and a light sword! Oh wait...
Thor vs Wonder Woman: Same as Doom vs Vader. According to them "Wonder Woman can only be killed by swords" Oh so the guy with a hammer as his only melee weapon stands a huge chance.
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"A literal goddess" doesn't mean shut.
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No one disses my elven waifu from LoZ and gets away it.
/keyboard warrioring intesifies
/keyboard warrioring intesifies
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Well ''either way'' the idea that she would lose to Peach of all people is just absurd to me.
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Both characters are Large Star Level. Peach actually has a legitiamte chance of winning.Starryknight200 said:
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Actually I just checked their profiles and Peach is Multi-Solar System level so Peach actually stomps if both are at peak.Starryknight200 said:
edit: Ninja'd.
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oops.Js250476 said:
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Nope. No matter how much DB or this site try to tell me so, no it's still just a healthy dose of BS in my eyes.Js250476 said:
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How so?Starryknight200 said:
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Zelda is a goddess at her peak but even in mortal form she has light arrows, swords, destructive and powerful magic, and legitimate combat training. Things that are useful in combat. She even helps Link out on more than one occasion, as in she actually does some fighting herself. Peach-- on the other hand-- throws turnips, hits people with parasols and frying pans, puts people to sleep, and can light on fire when she's angry. She never does anything except occasionally send Mario extra lives and scream his name whenever she sees him. So if you're trying to tell me the former loses to the latter, you can save your breath.
But my main problem with the Death Battle is how they used the dumbest feat I've ever heard of to justify her victory. Turning one soccer ball into three with a kick.
But my main problem with the Death Battle is how they used the dumbest feat I've ever heard of to justify her victory. Turning one soccer ball into three with a kick.
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Peach has fought off Bowser on her own on occasion but if you want to debate this take it to the thread linked above.Starryknight200 said:
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AFAIK the events of SMB2 were a dream. Super Princess Peach, though I've not played it myself, seems like a pretty low showing for Bowser and when did she beat up Mario?
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Kinda beating a dead horse here... but, eh, just for kicks, came across this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UilKMuseu6M
I don't really agree with him, not posting this as a point and laugh fodder or anything of the sort, though. But he says some stuff (all of this is ignoring this site's stats, their huge difference in AP, durability and speed):
Mostly, it does make me think about something: FFVII doesn't have that many speed feats, does it? I mean, we have the Bahamut Fury scaling as the standard and I recall there was a calculation using the Whirlwinds of the Northern Crater as well (which placed the party at Mach 100 before the Bahamut one came along) as one of the party crossing it, but haven't been able to find it.
Gotta say DBZ isn't a good comparison here. I mean, DBZ in general has pretty straightfoward combat with most being trading blows and ki blasts. Tricky abilities and hax isn't that present and can be surpassed with raw power, unlike other series or games with less direct combat. Tied to that, for all the fuzz regarding Vergil's speed, Sephy's varied abilities were also narrowed a lot from the variety of magic, buffs, status; to things the Death Battle mentioned such as his telekinesis (which he has used in combat with the arena and to restraint people), flight or teleport. Not to mention, if cutscenes are to go by, magic can be spammed without casting time: Genesis does it, Sephy could use barrier without casting.
The video guy does have a point regarding Death Battle simply glossing over the speed, though. They could have brought up something. I dunno, if Dissidia counts (apparently, it is canon to the multiverse deal... but not sure), Sephy there can can slash an opponent like 7-10 times in less than a second and you only see the first attack. Or I dunno, look harder on CC or AC they are pretty creative when finding feats for calculations. They'd be outraged if someone pointed out the Bahamut Fury scaling though >_>
Also, question: scaling to Dante and his dodging of Nevan's lighting makes Vergil considerably faster than the rain void feat right?
I am a bit confused about something, can't remember well since I played the games ages ago, but did Vergil ever use the Yamato to jump between dimensions? I know that in the DmC reebot he can do that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UilKMuseu6M
I don't really agree with him, not posting this as a point and laugh fodder or anything of the sort, though. But he says some stuff (all of this is ignoring this site's stats, their huge difference in AP, durability and speed):
Mostly, it does make me think about something: FFVII doesn't have that many speed feats, does it? I mean, we have the Bahamut Fury scaling as the standard and I recall there was a calculation using the Whirlwinds of the Northern Crater as well (which placed the party at Mach 100 before the Bahamut one came along) as one of the party crossing it, but haven't been able to find it.
Gotta say DBZ isn't a good comparison here. I mean, DBZ in general has pretty straightfoward combat with most being trading blows and ki blasts. Tricky abilities and hax isn't that present and can be surpassed with raw power, unlike other series or games with less direct combat. Tied to that, for all the fuzz regarding Vergil's speed, Sephy's varied abilities were also narrowed a lot from the variety of magic, buffs, status; to things the Death Battle mentioned such as his telekinesis (which he has used in combat with the arena and to restraint people), flight or teleport. Not to mention, if cutscenes are to go by, magic can be spammed without casting time: Genesis does it, Sephy could use barrier without casting.
The video guy does have a point regarding Death Battle simply glossing over the speed, though. They could have brought up something. I dunno, if Dissidia counts (apparently, it is canon to the multiverse deal... but not sure), Sephy there can can slash an opponent like 7-10 times in less than a second and you only see the first attack. Or I dunno, look harder on CC or AC they are pretty creative when finding feats for calculations. They'd be outraged if someone pointed out the Bahamut Fury scaling though >_>
Also, question: scaling to Dante and his dodging of Nevan's lighting makes Vergil considerably faster than the rain void feat right?
I am a bit confused about something, can't remember well since I played the games ages ago, but did Vergil ever use the Yamato to jump between dimensions? I know that in the DmC reebot he can do that.
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well Godzilla vs Gamera is still mah Favovorite though it isn't accurate at all
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Pretty sure Godzilla does win though
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Depends on the version of Godzilla we're talking here.
Most of them do.
Most of them do.
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Composite Godzilla was used; and it's actually a stomp in Godzilla's favor then. Legendary Godzilla is also much stronger; albeit no wear near as fast.
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Oh right, DB uses composites. I keep forgetting.
>looks at Composite Godzilla for the first time in a while...
>looks at Composite Godzilla for the first time in a while...
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Did you look at his old one?
Wanted AF
Wanted AF
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the inaccurate here is mean he should be one shots GameraDarkDragonMedeus said:
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Ah, I see. Yeah, there are a lot of Vs battles with accurate outcomes, but a much bigger stomps than what the video portrayed. Samus should have curb stomped/One shotted Boba Fett while portrayed as both invulnerable and untouchable to him.
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I can agree with this.Js250476 said:
Plus, the animation is beautiful. I dont like when people nitpick the animation like "Well he should have survived that."
And I am like shut up and just enjoy the animation
I didnt get pissy when Yang vs Tifa in their fight, it had beautiful animation (the outcome did piss me off tho)
