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Death Battle Season Ten Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Spongebob solos
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I think they mean it's because all the DC heralds in DB are cosmology busters.
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Sure, well maybe not busters but they have that level of AP yeah. Also the term “heralds” in DC doesn’t really mean anything, like Superman is closer to the description of a Skyfather anyways. But anyways Ben is stronger lol.
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I mean Hal has things that put him as relative to Superman. If anything, Hal's high ends can be arguably higher than Superman's high ends via scaling chains
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I don’t even mean AP-wise, just the description of “god who watches over the world from the sky” fits for Superman.
I doubt it, the best scaling for unamped JL members rn is Superman oneshotting Barbatos. With all of Hal’s previous amps being outclassed by that feat and Superman usually holding back making it difficult for people to scale to said feat. Heck with the Story of Superman, Superman is as far above Hal as Hal is above regular humans.
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TV show Invincible is Low 6-B. Regardless, TV show Invincible will likely end up as strong if not stronger than his comic counterpart, because KE go brrrrr
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Not really. Rebirth Superman one shotting Barbatos isn't portrayed as a absolute peak thing but rather casual, furthermore. Rebirth Superman is only vaguely stronger than PC Superman, while Hal has a scaling chain above characters who can easily defeat PC Superman.
I doubt story of Superman is even really combat applicable. And even so, it's not even an actual canon thing and it's fairly vague.
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*Using Death Batlte’s Moon level Texas meteorite
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Ah nvm.
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Also iirc Hal has a legit 2-A feat but it comes from a very convoluted comic that I cannot be bothered to read again unless I want my brain to die.
Fyi, it's a Grant Morrison comic.
Fyi, it's a Grant Morrison comic.
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Social Influencing, possession, magic Ig, altering his physiology with his imagination, probably some Diamond corruption shit. Can I use the CN physiology stuff?
The other calc is solar system level and it should be fine.
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He has to be asleep to use Possession so bad idea, Steven doesn’t have Corruption (but he can heal Corruption), and the other stuff just isn’t relevant vs Invincible.
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Exactly the point
5D imps can't even exist in the 6th dimension, which puts a hard stop to Post-Crisis scaling being relevant. Rn it only matters if you scale to the 6th dimension or not. Also which characters can supposedly easily defeat PC Superman?
It is combat applicable, Superman used it many times and it is a canon thing, what do you think CAS and Milkman Man are?
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Depends on speed
Don't all diamonds have it?
Well in that case there's an argument for HDE, pick your poison Ig.
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I hate the SS Steven beam calc. The corruption beam didnt even destroy shit and Diamonds want to use the Cluster as the main means of destroying planet, in context of story that beam really shouldnt be used.
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It's a hax-beam which generates x amount of light as a side-effect, I don't see the problem?
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Those aren't really standard to Superman no?
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That was in reference to the "is it canon" argument.
Every time Superman finds his way out of an impossible situation you can argue he used his Story.
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Unless Steven is starting the fight while asleep it’s just combat inapplicable. Can’t really doze off mid-fight while trading punches with someone.
Never stated.
Filtered.
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I don't quite understand this point, are you using DB's scaling of Superman or your own?
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Corruption only works on Gems
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If the speed gap is high enough you can lol.
I mean the 3 diamonds worked together for the big light beam so it seems pretty straightforward that he has it.
Statement is made by Lars, so fair.
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Fair, though Mav did claim Steven has no hax iirc vs claiming he has no usable hax.
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Not really + Out of character
Never stated + never demonstrated + only works on Gems
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My own definitely, I doubt they use the Barbatos stuff or go into this much detail.
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Hey you said, has hax, not whether it's actually usable until later iirc.
Also having a common physiology with the same abilities isn't a thing anymore?
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Why is Invincible vs Steven creating this much talk lol
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Cause it's actually debatable.
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Fr, they have some connections, but like personality wise, they're just not a match imo?
They're very different people from what I've seen of SU.
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What I'm saying is that I don't think I wanna see Steven get bloodied as shit if he and Mark fought.
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All of Mark’s other matchups kinda suck
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Tho on related to Steven's SI, how many MUs would have character win due to mind control? That seems like rare major win condition.
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Teen Gohan turns it from Hydrogen Bomb vs Coughing Baby, into Atomic Bomb vs Healthy Baby
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Let me cope damn it that they don't
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