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Ah neat, I thought Primal got IDW Transformers scaling for a sec
Even if he did it's something like High 6-A. His best bet is the Low 5-B rhinox fart, or if they choose to say "it's ambiguous as to what continuity this follows so we're gonna take from both Sunbow and Marvel for scalling purposes" and use that as supporting evidence for tier 5. I'm pretty sure every time MMX was in DB they rejected Lumine's feat? But I don't know if that's changed either.

If you're asking for scaling outside of Beast Wars, he does appear in the Beast Wars II movie (and I think the manga?), but I don't think that's all too high up or if using it is at all possible.
 
I wanted Unicron to win but cmon, the cope from Transformers fans is wild
They be like that sometimes. Granted they're not the worst ones I've seen but still.

Makes me worried for the next TF MU.

If Transformers loses, they'll think DB hates the franchise, if Transformers wins, they'll probably see it as a pity win.
 
Modern Transformers community when it comes to scaling the characters have two sides.
  1. Normies who think these weak ass robot men aren't shit compared to heavy weights like Frieza or Galactus
  2. Kids born from cringey TikTok edits who puts those like Optimus or Megatron at ******* "infinite dimensional transcendence conceptual" shit.
 
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Goku may be less popular than Superman but what about Discord and Rocket Raccoon?
Idk, I think you could argue Bill and Stitch to be comparable in popularity if not moreso?

Transformers suffers the fact that most of its most other notable power houses(UT,JPG1 And Alternity) be obscure these days and there well known like Archie or Legends
I understand not wanting to do UT or Alternity, but I don't think JPG1 is even that hard to explain.
 
but I don't think JPG1 is even that hard to explain.
From my understanding (read: I watched the animes) it's really just a Japanese only sequel to the Sunbow cartoon, it's infinitely simpler to use it than to make a weird Frankenstein out of Transformers characters.
Not really considering DB scales IDW to 3-A. Pretty stupid but it is what it is
Oh yeah, I forgor
 
From my understanding (read: I watched the animes) it's really just a Japanese only sequel to the Sunbow cartoon, it's infinitely simpler to use it than to make a weird Frankenstein out of Transformers characters.
Exactly. People compare it to xenoverse but it's really more similar to DB Toei.
 
And finally I'm done
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Me and my buddy gonna be working on Archie Knuckles vs Juggernaut
 
And finally I'm done
GBrYQcEWQAAHD-A

Me and my buddy gonna be working on Archie Knuckles vs Juggernaut
Honestly a big reason why I want Kratos vs Asura is so that it undergoes the Goku vs Superman effect. As in Death Battle does more research that unearths plenty of more feats for Asura.

Cause I'm pretty sure Chakravartin has statements of creating universes yet for some reason they aren't accepted here.
 
Honestly a big reason why I want Kratos vs Asura is so that it undergoes the Goku vs Superman effect. As in Death Battle does more research that unearths plenty of more feats for Asura.

Cause I'm pretty sure Chakravartin has statements of creating universes yet for some reason they aren't accepted here.
Thing is he doesn't have that
The best Asura get is just Uni(highball)
 
Yeah, that shit is messed up. People can dislike the series all they want, but sending death threats to a kid who is just enjoying his time making videos is completely insane. (which are done in a phone who is freaking awesome considering the quality).
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Poor guy, what the hell, why are fandoms so overlysensitive? If fiction inspires actual hatred for someone you really need to grow up a little and actually try to see the implications of wishing death to someone.
 
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