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Death Battle Season Ten Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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Tyranno223 said:
Very poor SMT scaling. He only gets to the Low 2-C stuff.
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Accelerated_Evolution said:
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Thanks mate. 2023 has kind of stunk recently for me with a combination of moving towards a different part of the state I live in after 10 years, having to leave my job of three years and the friends I made, trying to apply for and failing to find a job at eight different places, and just overall having this feeling of depression and irritation because it seemed nothing was going my way.

But I got my GED now, Christmas is near, and I'll be seeing family pretty soon so I'm happier then I've been in the last couple months. It's a pretty nice feeling, and I appreciate the congratulations.
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
Thanks mate. 2023 has kind of stunk recently for me with a combination of moving towards a different part of the state I live in after 10 years, having to leave my job of three years and the friends I made, trying to apply for and failing to find a job at eight different places, and just overall having this feeling of depression and irritation because it seemed nothing was going my way.

But I got my GED now, Christmas is near, and I'll be seeing family pretty soon so I'm happier then I've been in the last couple months. It's a pretty nice feeling, and I appreciate the congratulations.
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I just want to say, congratulations!
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
Thanks mate. 2023 has kind of stunk recently for me with a combination of moving towards a different part of the state I live in after 10 years, having to leave my job of three years and the friends I made, trying to apply for and failing to find a job at eight different places, and just overall having this feeling of depression and irritation because it seemed nothing was going my way.

But I got my GED now, Christmas is near, and I'll be seeing family pretty soon so I'm happier then I've been in the last couple months. It's a pretty nice feeling, and I appreciate the congratulations.
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I hope everything in your life gets better!
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Gyra1524 said:
Who wins between Ash and Yugi?
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They're both messes of either constant CRTs or not getting enough attention, but I THINK Ash and his team have the stat trinity, despite Yugi's potential insta-win hax option?

Death Battle wise, I think I remember them saying that high-end trainers and pokemon should get Creation Trio scaling of some-sort, so Death Battle would probably give Ash the stat trinity there too. But that was just a cast and I only vaguely remember it.
 
Oliver_de_jesus said:
Amaranth and the stellar manipulator to stop it from eating Gallifrey because of Gravity works
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Prove those things work on millions of extremely fast black holes that can literally affect (type 1) concepts.
Oliver_de_jesus said:
Honestly, I have seen that it can reach 1-A+ as a mid-end
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So infinite outerversal transcendences? I assume only high-end Daleks scale to this?
Oliver_de_jesus said:
I'm sure that Acasuality type 2 doesn't work that way, also Timestream are infinite normally
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1) Timelines being infinitely-long by default is VSBW cope likely resulting of people confusing the amount of points a timeline has with the amount of seconds it has. 2) If it isn’t VSBW cope then give me a scientific source for this. 3) It doesn’t even matter since Ben 10 clearly functions differently and also has a statement of space-time being eternal. 4) “Type 2: Temporal Singularity: Characters with this type of Acausality do not exist in either the past or the future, only the present.”

Present: the period of time now occurring.

Literally less than 0 seconds pass from our perspective for Ben 10 characters from when they are born to when they die. So by all means they would be living purely in the present during their entire lifespan.

You finding this particular justification for type 2 acausality odd implies that Dr. Who characters may not have a counter for it as their time travel tech needs to be very precise for a successful time travel kill.
 
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Greenshifter said:
Prove those things work on millions of extremely fast black holes that can literally affect concepts.
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First of all where do they come from, in fact when Highbreed used Black holes? I don't remember.

It also works on the Eye of Harmony, so it's nothing new, every TARDIS (Thus Dalek's timeship) has one of these as a precaution in case their copies of the Eye of Harmony go wrong.
ʻWhat about the amaranth?ʼ Roz insisted.

ʻTime Lord technology. The first amaranth was designed by the maintenance engineers who tended to the Eye of Harmony.ʼ

ʻRemind me.ʼ
ʻThe Eye of Harmony. The power source around which all of Time Lord civilization revolves.ʼ The Doctor sounded almost proud when he said that, throwing his arms wide and rolling his Rʼs. Or maybe heʼs just taking the piss, Roz thought.

ʻItʼs our pet black hole,ʼ he continued. ʻNo TARDIS could ever have got off the ground without it. But the thing about black holes is that they do tend to have unfortunate effects on the continuum around them. All sorts of things start happening when you mess about with that kind of energy. Ancient legend holds that when the Eye was first used, Rassilon himself was very nearly killed by a free-falling rhinoceros.ʼ

ʻYouʼre lying.ʼ

ʻYes. But you get the idea. The continuum becomes warped, frayed, ambiguous. The amaranth is designed to stop unpleasant things happening. It looks for parts of the universe that have become unstable in some way or other, and rebuilds them according to more... rational patterns.ʼ

ʻBut there arenʼt any black holes around here. Presumably.ʼ

ʻOh, I donʼt know. Iʼm sure I must have one somewhere.ʼ He began fumbling in his pockets, but thankfully gave up the search before he managed to produce anything disturbing. ʻBut I take your point. However, there are other things that can have distortional effects on the continuum.ʼ

ʻSuch as?ʼ

ʻGynoids. And their friends and families.ʼ He stopped abruptly, and turned, pointing at the corner of a boarded-up barberʼs shop with the end of his cane. Roz squinted in that direction, just in time to see something vanish around the corner.

ʻWas that...?ʼ she began. The Doctor turned, pointed again, and again, and again. Each time she looked, Roz glimpsed something out of the corner of her eye. Each time, it disappeared before she could focus on it. None of the townspeople who passed them by seemed to notice anything strange, except, of course, for a peculiar man with a walking-cane who kept pointing at things.

ʻWeʼre surrounded,ʼ Roz murmured. ʻThereʼs got to be dozens of them.ʼ

ʻNo, just one. But itʼs around every corner.ʼ

ʻThat doesnʼt make sense.ʼ

ʻVery true.ʼ Casually, he slung the cane over his shoulder, and carried on walking in whatever direction he happened to be facing.

-Christmas on a Rational Planet
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So infinite outerversal transcendences? I assume only high-end Daleks scale to this?
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Yes, Only with the reality bomb/prep time, since it would kill the Void that contains every possible interaction of the type 4 multiverse
 
Greenshifter said:
3) It doesn’t even matter since Ben 10 clearly functions differently and also has a statement of space-time being eternal. 4) “Type 2: Temporal Singularity: Characters with this type of Acausality do not exist in either the past or the future, only the present.”

Present: the period of time now occurring.

Literally less than 0 seconds pass from our perspective for Ben 10 characters from when they are born to when they die. So by all means they would be living purely in the present during their entire lifespan.

You finding this particular justification for type 2 acausality odd implies that Dr. Who characters may not have a counter for it as their time travel tech needs to be very precise for a successful time travel kill.
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Doctor who's timeline Infinitely is too
“The end state of an open universe will, given absolutely infinite past time, extend to infinity. Our universe is open. Therefore at some future point it will expand to infinity. An infinitely expanded universe will exhibit the following characteristics: zero local Einsteinian space-time curvature, and little, if any, matter over vast ranges of space-times.
Such an area of space-time can be regarded mathematically as a domain of De Sitter space. An empty De Sitter space can be shown to lead without additional causal interaction to the creation of a further universe similar to our own. Thus as our universe approaches heat death, it will naturally ‘give birth’ to one, or more, successor universes. -The taking of planet 5
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Also, Ben 10's timestream would give Acausality type 4, instead of 2, since regardless of how it works it still has a past and future
 
Tipper17 said:
Oh well immeasurable and 1500x universal DB a thing now good luck walking back on it now 🤷‍♂️
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I mean to be fair, they never hard committed to anything immeasurable for main canon. They expressly said everything else for canon was black boxed and they specifically said "implies immeasurable speed" for the Zamasu thing. I think it could be pretty easily walked back on it if they wanted to.
 
Greenshifter said:
This doesn’t seem like much of an authoritative statement to me. Assuming that Doctor Who does in fact have a Type IV multiverse, do you think it could reach extraversal by accounting for the infinite stack of stories? Or merely infinite dimensional transcendences above baseline 1-A? It should be noted that transcending a type IV multiverse is considered outerversal by CSAP standards.
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Hypothetically, iirc the timevortex is stated to be infinitely layered, which is above the regular multiverse which is type 4 iirc
 
 
Oliver_de_jesus said:
First of all where do they come from, in fact when Highbreed used Black holes? I don't remember.
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Oliver_de_jesus said:
It also works on the Eye of Harmony
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Why is it a type 1 concept and how high does it scale?
Oliver_de_jesus said:
ʻThat doesnʼt make sense.ʼ

ʻVery true.ʼ Casually, he slung the cane over his shoulder, and carried on walking in whatever direction he happened to be facing.

-Christmas on a Rational Planet
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Doctor Who in a nutshell.
Oliver_de_jesus said:
Yes, Only with the reality bomb/prep time, since it would kill the Void that contains every possible interaction of the type 4 multiverse
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Wait are you arguing some sort of MWI on top of type 4?
 
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