Death Battle Season Ten Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Foxthefox1000]

It's definitely jarring to switch between places. Like, the discord has massively different interpretations than this place. I guess that applies to DB as well for obvious reasons. There's also a lot of people who don't buy lore scaling for some reason and nerf a ton of vg characters

Really VS is a mess and not consistent at all due to how interpretive it is.

 

[Chianli]

artorimachi_meteoraft and this pokemonfan guy are the same person BTW.

 

[Chianli]

Not trying to sound rude in anyway just curious, so Pokemonfan807 one of the writers? that would make a lot of sense narratively.

Even if he wasn't the narrative implication still makes sense.

Nah just some dude on a server based around here.

 

[Chianli]

 

[Tipper17]

Really VS is a mess and not consistent at all due to how interpretive it is.

It's been like that but I say since 2015 it keeps going down the ******* with Dimensional tiering nonsense,4D,5D etc the hobby far more brain rot inducing stupidity than the old days of vs and even that was still dumb as shit

 

[0ホルスファルコン将軍0]

They really Phoenix VS Raven’d Billcord and conflated power absorption with power nullification. The more I think about it, the more my rage is catching up towards my enjoyment of the episode.

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

I'll be honest with you guys, I feel like most of you seem to take it way too seriously as, I've geninuously enjoyed this season, at least with most episodes, now... I agree that discord losing feels wrong.

but the fact that people have harassed a member of the investigation already shows pretty well that this game was going to be controversial, that there isn't a question and answer, it's pretty sure it's just going to be a barrage of angry people.

I guess... Some of you guys need to go touch some grass, at least for a little while.

 

[Lightbuster30]

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I just really hate how they conveniently didn’t mention soooo many things that would let Discord pretty much instantly win. Having actual good time stop which unlike Bill’s stops sentient beings, Conceptual Manipulation to complete erase Bill conceptually, Existence Erasure to wipe out Bill, they kinda just hand waved away MLP magic affecting spirits so Discord could kill his soul, having way better mind Manip and being able to completely rewrite Bill’s entire personality, and being able to shut off Bill’s powers in the mindscape. They were really stretching for a Bill W.

What gets me is the fact they reasoned Discord wouldn't take Bill seriously until it was too late because he keeps screwing around, ignoring the fact Bill is so much like Cosmos Discord wouldn't even think of screwing around instead of getting things done asap. Not to mention Discord having canon knowledge on Bill due to his time-space mastery.

If anyone gets screwed over by playing with their food too much, Bill has it way worse than Discord. Even when pissed and serious he kept chasing the Pines Twins instead of just instantly immobilizing them with his control over space and matter, and wound up erased because his tomfoolery gave Ford and Stan time to swap and trick him.

 

[RiloKileyFan]

They really Phoenix VS Raven’d Billcord and conflated power absorption with power nullification. The more I think about it, the more my rage is catching up towards my enjoyment of the episode.

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[Foxthefox1000]

Yeah, like, Bill did straight up just kill Time Baby, but literally everything else centered around him shows how often his hubris and messing around gets the better of him.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Yeah, like, Bill did straight up just kill Time Baby, but literally everything else centered around him shows how often his hubris and messing around gets the better of him.

Time Baby is an outright hated rival Bill planned on offing the second he got power.

He did nothing but clown around with the Shacktron. First he sends his minions not taking it seriously. Then after they get their asses beat after Bill powers them up he still doesn't take it seriously, choosing to comically enlarge his fist and take 2 seconds to adjust his bowtie just to be dramatic. Even after he bypasses the shield he's still playing with it a bit in the background.

When Discord gets mad and serious, he's fully prepared to end you and the situation asap.

When Bill gets mad and serious he keeps playing with his food and gets erased.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

was there any argument to time baby eating time as an immeasurable speed feat?

 

[Foxthefox1000]

They clearly showed off far too many potential MUs for every cameo to be part of this season. However, certain fights do fit certain symbols. Scales can easily be Sans VS The Judge and the Suit or Beaker can be light vs columbo or Rick VS The Doctor.

But for some reason I don't think those are the MUs

 

[0ホルスファルコン将軍0]

I'll be honest with you guys, I feel like most of you seem to take it way too seriously as, I've geninuously enjoyed this season, at least with most episodes, now... I agree that discord losing feels wrong.

but the fact that people have harassed a member of the investigation already shows pretty well that this game was going to be controversial, that there isn't a question and answer, it's pretty sure it's just going to be a barrage of angry people.

I guess... Some of you guys need to go touch some grass, at least for a little while.

Nah, **** outta here with that “touch grass” bullshit. This was my number 1 most wanted episode of all time and wanted everything to be perfect after those last 3 absolute disgraces of MLP episodes, and despite delivering on that aspect in being debatably the best sprite we’ve had in the entire show, everything leading up to it, during it, and after it was a slog. They straight up killed the anticipation by revealing that it was coming after MMHvSS a week early. If that damn triangle was gonna win they could’ve been more honest and comprehensive. I legit know how Ben 10 fans feel now holy shit.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

unrelated but Base Thor is getting bumped to High Outer at his peak

 

[Tots_Real]

Still not really into Sans vs Judge. It's just Sans vs Stronger Sans, I get they have good connections but at a point characters being to similar is a negative.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

unrelated but Base Thor is getting bumped to High Outer at his peak

at least one good thing came out of this day, other than my preferred winning with questionable reasoning

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

unrelated but Base Thor is getting bumped to High Outer at his peak

Do you buy that Maverick?

 

[Chianli]

from artorimachi_meteoraft

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

from artorimachi_meteoraft

huh, who is this wish.com speedy

 

[Chianli]

I hope I don't get dragged on to this.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Wasn't that a person that was impersonating him?

 

[DJTiki]

This screenshot has been posted a countless amount of times.
It was an impersonation of Speedy to try and get him fired. They messaged this to another user of the community and immediately deleted the server. This is a good reason why we aren't particularly vested in making Q&As or following up on this episode. (We aren't contracted to make them)

 

[Chianli]

huh, who is this wish.com spee

I ain't even sire if that even is speedy

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

I ain't even sire if that even is speedy

why are they named speedy, probably a faker

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Do you buy that Maverick?

Yeah it seems to make sense.

It comes from Thor being able to use cosmic pyrokinesis via his connection to the Phoenix Force, and having “latent inner power” that he unleashes on rare occasions when he needs it:

A Small Thor Update

About the Herald of Thunder So, currently, Thor's last key is rated as this: Up to High Outerverse level via Absorption and the God Blast (Completely drained an amplified Galactus, who stated that he was stronger than ever before, which should include Lifebringer Galactus. Made the Black...

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Thor being that strong when using the Phoenix Force makes sense, and Thor’s latent power is the source of his God Blast, so ig that also works.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

I ain't even sire if that even is speedy

what has ultraguy got to do with this

 

[OverlordDonnelly]

I disliked the way the research was handled myself, but people really need to stop dragging the crew through the mud with fake screenshots and harassment. That's no okay, and I can't believe some people get that hyperaggressive about VS.

 

[Tots_Real]

So we like all agree that bill winning is stupid right? Like I'm a Gravity Falls fan whose only knowledge of mlp is like some Youtube videos back when I was popular and fan art but even I know that most of the Bill arguments are at best headcanons.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

I know that most of the Bill at best head canon.

isn't that just powerscaling in general

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Also what are people's opinions on scaling bill to the rift? Like bill's death caused it to disappear implying he kept it open

 

[ZeedKZ]

I would be fine with either one winning, I do have Bill way higher than what he is on this site, but nothing that puts him above Discord or that makes the match a total stomp, so the episode was really fun and good imo.

 

[Tots_Real]

isn't that just powerscaling in general

I mean powerscaling at least has some degree of basis in the show, saying bill has soul destruction despite it never even being implied and can only be gimmicked if you relate Mind = Soul which the show kinda shows the opposite of.

 

[Cyberblader90]

Behavior here has me baffled

 

[ZeedKZ]

Also what are people's opinions on scaling bill to the rift? Like bill's death caused it to disappear implying he kept it open

I think Bill not scaling to the full thing is true for most part (tho it doesn't really matter since his hacks are the only thing that matters on him), tho it is implied that he would survived the Weirdmageddon since Stanford said that the results of it is just a mere game for him. That's me though.

 

[Tots_Real]

Also what are people's opinions on scaling bill to the rift? Like bill's death caused it to disappear implying he kept it open

If you really want I think it's fine if your trying to make him Low 2-C but extrapolating it into being 2-A from Time Baby saying it's a threat to all of existence is stupid, like really stupid.
If the whole multiverse was at threat why didn't any other multiversal entity try to intervene, there should be a theoretical infinite number of cosmic entities to try stop Bill not just Time Baby.

 

[ZeedKZ]

I don't think there is any cosmic entity other than Bill, Time Baby and Axolotl.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Behavior here has me baffled

They're usually better then this.........attacking the researchers is not a good look at all, they're just doing their jobs . You can disagree, but keep it civil for ***** sake guys.

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

out of all the fights, i find it kind of funny that bill vs discord has been the most "controversial" even without going public yet.. anyway.. so i also forgot to post this yesterday lol.

continuing with the traveler vs the knight.

 

[Tots_Real]

I don't think there is any cosmic entity other than Bill, Time Baby and Axolotl.

There should be alternate universe versions of time baby. You can also argue The Gardian from Amphibia too if you want to be a prick about it.