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Imma be honest, this MU kinda not my fav, Tooru literally has no animation potential
Oh Tooru also has Nagito

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Thematically tooru va makima is great, but in terms of animation...it sucks a little, no matter how much I want to, I don't think there's a way to do it well in the short time of a death battle...or in vs in general.
Even more ironic JJBA is supposed to be a franchise big enough in the west, contrasting and magnifying the fact that the popularity of Tooru vs Makima is far less than that of Satoru Gojo vs Makima.
(Oh while Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man are both new franchises popular worldwide, they have yet to come to Death Battle)

Oh Satoru Gojo vs Makima will have thematic connections plus popularity plus animation potential plus debate potential plus some more, making it a good choice Rooster Teeth should not miss while it ripes.
 
Even more ironic JJBA is supposed to be a franchise big enough in the west, contrasting and magnifying the fact that the popularity of Tooru vs Makima is far less than that of Satoru Gojo vs Makima.
(Oh while Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man are both new franchises popular worldwide, they have yet to come to Death Battle)

Oh Satoru Gojo vs Makima will have thematic connections plus popularity plus animation potential plus debate potential plus some more, making it a good choice Rooster Teeth should not miss while it ripes.
To be fair, JJK has a high popularity thanks to its anime, especially gojo which is well known for being a husbando lol, while Chainsawman overcame the manga barrier and reached even people who limited to consume anime, unfortunately jojos part 8 is a bit in the shadow of part 7, which makes tooru vs makima, not so popular.

And yes, while tooru is great in concept and theme, it loses at the animation level which I think is the most important thing anyway.
 
Batman vs Iron Man is like the only time I recall OST not hinting at winner by baiting Bats theme at end, and iirc that one was released after the ep. Maybe Trunks vs Silver from lyric point of view?

StitchRocket OST hinted at the underwater scene and back to surface too and well we got that.

A tranquil moment is happening at the end of fight, but for who?
 
Y'all buying to much into this ost man
I mean, there's too many weird things that give a hint that Raven's gonna win
Ben intially saying that Jean's gonna stomp Raven (Same thing the team said when asked about Trunks vs Silver)
The fight beginning with Jean dominating
And now this, obviously it's not 100% proof that Jean's gonna lose but I still find it somewhat believable
 
Looking at the Nem's predict vid, Trigon scaling to Spectre was mentioned, and thinking about it, they considered Adam Apocalypse even in power with similar scaling, Spectre and Phoenix Force.

Since Ive heard some mentions of this being close, maybe theyll stat equal again and have Raven hax win. It might actually be possibility.
 
Looking at the Nem's predict vid, Trigon scaling to Spectre was mentioned, and thinking about it, they considered Adam Apocalypse even in power with similar scaling, Spectre and Phoenix Force.

Since Ive heard some mentions of this being close, maybe theyll stat equal again and have Raven hax win. It might actually be possibility.
This is a certified Scatanna moment
 
I mean, there's too many weird things that give a hint that Raven's gonna win
Ben intially saying that Jean's gonna stomp Raven (Same thing the team said when asked about Trunks vs Silver)
The fight beginning with Jean dominating
And now this, obviously it's not 100% proof that Jean's gonna lose but I still find it somewhat believable
Looking at the Nem's predict vid, Trigon scaling to Spectre was mentioned, and thinking about it, they considered Adam Apocalypse even in power with similar scaling, Spectre and Phoenix Force.

Since Ive heard some mentions of this being close, maybe theyll stat equal again and have Raven hax win. It might actually be possibility.
This is a certified Scatanna moment
This is a certified Scatanna + StrangeFate moment




On an unrelated note, how would people feel if John Constantine lost to Raidou Kuzunoha XIV but Charles Xavier won against Takuto Maruki?
 
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Thoughts on the current ciphers and episodes?
Ant-Man vs Atom - the atomic symbol
Dragonborn vs Chosen Undead - the swords
Killua vs Misaka - the pentagram
Stitch vs Rocket - the beak
Vader vs Obito - the half-moon
Raven vs Phoenix - the yin yang or the lotus

Sly Cooper vs Lupin - the suit
Punisher vs Judge Dredd - the balance
Ghost Rider vs Spawn/Venom OR Eren Yeager vs Ken Kaneki - the recycle sign
Ms Marvel vs Izuku Midoriya / Bowser vs Eggman - the star
Spinal vs Cervantes - the skull
Liu Kang vs Jago - the yin yang or the lotus
Bowser vs Eggman / Catwoman vs Black Cat - the dollar sign
Bill Cipher vs Discord - question mark
Macgrath vs Mercer - the swirling arrows IG
Kyogre vs Chaos - the tsunami wave
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I mean, there's too many weird things that give a hint that Raven's gonna win
Ben intially saying that Jean's gonna stomp Raven (Same thing the team said when asked about Trunks vs Silver)
The fight beginning with Jean dominating
And now this, obviously it's not 100% proof that Jean's gonna lose but I still find it somewhat believable
Ben said this back in 2018 5 years ago its not hard for Raven to get shit to make it close since then given lol comics
 
Looking at the Nem's predict vid, Trigon scaling to Spectre was mentioned, and thinking about it, they considered Adam Apocalypse even in power with similar scaling, Spectre and Phoenix Force.

Since Ive heard some mentions of this being close, maybe theyll stat equal again and have Raven hax win. It might actually be possibility.
doesn't Jean resist all of Ravens hax tho?
 
When will Phoenix vs Raven release for first members?
July 31 1am SGT for Rooster Teeth First members and Death Battle Youtube Champion planet level or above members
Aug 1 1am SGT for all on Youtube

(if nothing else screws up)
 
Spectre is to damn inconsistent man. You can't use that as a viable scaling argument.
I mean, as far as my personally restrictive mindset goes, yes. I feel like Phoenix stuff is probably better to use than Raven's.

But this is modern DB. All bets are off.

And unironically thinking about it now, they seriously have them comparable. Adam and Apocalypse was close, who got scalings to Spetre and Phoenix Force respectively. If Raven gets Trigon scaling who gets Spectre scaling, they might unironically be close in stats.

I am feeling some shenanigans happening now.
 
Meanwhile...
Anyone actually noticing that Atelier Ryza is really pushing the popularity of Atelier series to a new level?

... And that we may actually get an Atelier character into Death Battle?
 
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