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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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They don't use Toei unless the character is Toei exclusive (Like with Z Broly)
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They did they used toei vegeta and toei goku and that only applies to newer seasions
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They only used GT Goku, not Goku from general Toei, they specifically said they didn't do that in GvS1.
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GT goku is goku toei you know
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I know, but excluding GT they very specifically used the Manga.
They likely treated it in a similar way to how we treat the DBS anime.
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and that matters for? they used GT and that is a case of a weird composite
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Point is they wouldn't do the same for Buu. Even if they did, Buu would wanna absorb Kirby due to how strong he is and Kirby could just kick his ass from the inside since he sort of resists that sort of thing.
Can't dodge something that's inside of you.
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And why wouldnt they do the same for buu?
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Because you can physically effect Buu while inside him but you can't for Kirby.
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they did for Buu they used his Galaxy feat in the anime
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Refering why wouldnt they use toei buu
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They only did that because it was iconic, like with Galaxia's star seed thing. Also it was Season 2, research was shit.
Z Anime clearly isn't canon, they wouldn't use it for Buu.
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umm i think that making you agree is imposible. okay that makes no sense
1. they used the feat that doesnt make any sense
2. they used for goku there wouldnt be any reasons that they wouldnt use it
3. GT is in the same continuity as GT toei
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OK, but early season research was shit.
They'd never do that now.
For example, they didn't scale Beerus' speed to Toei stuff.
They'd never do that now.
For example, they didn't scale Beerus' speed to Toei stuff.
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OK, but GvS had the Manga take priority.
And they didn't go out of their way to use Anime-only feats (Or really any feats at all because the actual research part of Goku vs Superman was easily the worst part of that episode regardless of the verdict)
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We have had
Vegito vs Gogeta
Ness vs Sans
Naruto Uzumaki vs Ryu Hayabusa
Black Adam vs Apocalypse
Donald Duck vs Daffy Duck
Zuko vs Roy Mustang
Ami Mizuno vs Billy Cranston < currently here
Coming
Goomba vs Koopa 2
One matchup with Sheev Palpatine
Guess what is next
Jocelyn is back
Finally Lisa Foiles runs out of projects and turn back to take tasks at Rooster Teeth
******* CELL as co-host, ArtemisUniverse is leaking lmao
... Is a Cell matchup or Kermit matchup or Cell vs Kermit coming?!
Vegito vs Gogeta
Ness vs Sans
Naruto Uzumaki vs Ryu Hayabusa
Black Adam vs Apocalypse
Donald Duck vs Daffy Duck
Zuko vs Roy Mustang
Ami Mizuno vs Billy Cranston < currently here
Coming
Goomba vs Koopa 2
One matchup with Sheev Palpatine
Guess what is next
Jocelyn is back
Finally Lisa Foiles runs out of projects and turn back to take tasks at Rooster Teeth
******* CELL as co-host, ArtemisUniverse is leaking lmao
... Is a Cell matchup or Kermit matchup or Cell vs Kermit coming?!
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Kirby: Misconceptions
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Kirby isn't Void, but the latter is very similar to Buu tho.
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Kirby being Void is a major oversimplification, but Dark Matter beings (Like Gooey) and Void can both exist at the same time and even fight one another. Since Gooey is confirmed to be Dark Matter and Dark Matter is confirmed to be related to Void, it's perfectly reasonable to assume at least two incarnations of Void can exist simultaneously.Kirby: Misconceptions
Kirby isn't Void, but the latter is very similar to Buu tho.
I seriously doubt "Good" Void looking like Kirby and "Evil" Void looking like Dark Matter is mere coincidence, considering Dark Matter's confirmed/all but confirmed connection.
Also, it's not like Kirby being an inherently good being would contradict anything, or even cheapen the character. Kirby dosn't exactly have that much of a character in case you forgot, and he wouldn't even be the only inherently good protagonist in Nintendo history (See Link and Zelda). Don't get me wrong, Kirby has a character, but Kirby himself isn't exactly known for being deep.
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Damn literally everyone in the world knew it was Iron Man
Bats is about to take his third L to the same franchise
Bats is about to take his third L to the same franchise
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With the new info we have gotten at RTX, this is now my season prediction list
148 Batman vs Iron Man (Sprite)
149 The Mask vs Freakazoid (Sprite)
150 Kool Aid Man vs Randy Savage (Hand Drawn)
151 Dio vs Alucard (Sprite)
152 Black Cat vs Catwomen (Sprite)
153 ??? (SFM or Blender)
154 Madara vs Aizen (Sprite)
155 Galactus vs Unicron (In-house)
148 Batman vs Iron Man (Sprite)
149 The Mask vs Freakazoid (Sprite)
150 Kool Aid Man vs Randy Savage (Hand Drawn)
151 Dio vs Alucard (Sprite)
152 Black Cat vs Catwomen (Sprite)
153 ??? (SFM or Blender)
154 Madara vs Aizen (Sprite)
155 Galactus vs Unicron (In-house)
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Implying Ash vs Lucy Heartfilia or Yugi Muto is in SFM or Blender?
Catwoman vs Black Cat has live action potential tbh... Or do they confirm no live action episodes for 2021?
Catwoman vs Black Cat has live action potential tbh... Or do they confirm no live action episodes for 2021?
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Don't get surprised in watching Batman win over Iron Man
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Not really. I just don't think Cole vs Alex is happening this season and I haven't had a big brain moment for that slot like I did Mask vs Freakazoid yet so :/
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Cole vs Alex is likely in Season Eight given the degree of overdue matching Galactus vs Unicron
So is an Ash Ketchum episode given 151 is a special number in Pokémon.
Ep 148 9/12: Batman vs Iron Man (sprite)
Ep 149 9/26: Alex Mercer vs Cole MacGrath (3d) (swapped)
Ep 150 10/10: Kool-aid Man vs Macho Man Randy Savage (hand drawn) (swapped as confirmed (?) as the 150th)
Ep 151 10/24: Ash vs Yugi/Lucy (sprite) (what to expect for a Pokémon episode)
Ep 152 11/7: Dio vs Alucard (sprite)
Ep 153 11/21: Black Cat vs Catwoman (3d / live action)
Ep 154 12/5: Madara Uchiha vs Sosuke Aizen (sprite)
Ep 155 12/19: Galactus vs Unicorn (3d)
Swapping Scott Pilgrim vs Travis Touchdown for Black Cat vs Catwoman for a possible live action 2021 episode
So is an Ash Ketchum episode given 151 is a special number in Pokémon.
Ep 148 9/12: Batman vs Iron Man (sprite)
Ep 149 9/26: Alex Mercer vs Cole MacGrath (3d) (swapped)
Ep 150 10/10: Kool-aid Man vs Macho Man Randy Savage (hand drawn) (swapped as confirmed (?) as the 150th)
Ep 151 10/24: Ash vs Yugi/Lucy (sprite) (what to expect for a Pokémon episode)
Ep 152 11/7: Dio vs Alucard (sprite)
Ep 153 11/21: Black Cat vs Catwoman (3d / live action)
Ep 154 12/5: Madara Uchiha vs Sosuke Aizen (sprite)
Ep 155 12/19: Galactus vs Unicorn (3d)
Swapping Scott Pilgrim vs Travis Touchdown for Black Cat vs Catwoman for a possible live action 2021 episode
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Why do you have Kool Aid Man vs Randy Savage at 149 when it's confirmed to be 150?
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never mind it is interchangeable
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Dark Matter is related to Void in the same way that Christianity's Adam and Eve would be related to some group of decendents they had classified in any way you can think of. Those decendents existing among each other isn't something notable, should Adam and Eve get revived they could walk among them without it being notable too.
The premise of what you assume is wrong, "at least two incarnations of Void can exist simultaneously"/Void can have more than 1 incarnation in 1 universe is 1 assumption, the reason used for it has 2 things wrong; saying that Dark Matter beings can exist at the same time isn't notable unless you already assume they're all incarnations of Void, saying that they and Void can exist at the same time isn't notable for the same reason.
Not to mention Dark Matter don't have all the same powers as Void, only some, and they don't revive themselves the same when they die. Same with Kirby. And an accurately translated pause screen from Void implies that they're as many of them as they are dimensions, meaning 1 per universe unless we also add in to assume this is just some approximation.
They're not mere coincidence. He's at the start of all family trees in Kirby and as he revivies himself we can reasonably believe he keeps on making decendents. If fans wanted to say that a former Void was Kirby's father then that wouldn't have solid reasons to be, but could be possible based on everything we know. Void Termina felt something about Kirby when he first saw him and made himself a similar face, maybe to copy him, maybe remembering a past life.
I'm aware he doesn't have much of a character, but also how the series grabs what they already created and elevate it up to 11 in newer games. Dark Matter went from alien conquerors to incomprehensible creatures of pure evil. Positive energy and team work was as much of a facter for victory as in any verse that covers them with some extra help coming from them, and then because a fancy power system like Ki or The Force, etc. Kirby thanks to Star Allies went into Superman or Steven Universe levels of good boy-ness.
Although how much the removal of agency matters vary from person to person, some may not think too much about how a villain may only be evil (or as evil) due having been corrupted by outside factors and allude it all to the villain when seeing it do evil personally.
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Kirby = Void is more subtle implication than being fully confirmed.
Also its not like Kirby is THE Void, just a being that apparently got positive energy compared to negative energy of Dark Matters.
Also its not like Kirby is THE Void, just a being that apparently got positive energy compared to negative energy of Dark Matters.
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DB use anime feats as long it supports what they can do in canon
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I'm pretty sure Kirby won that DB via that frying pan throw. That was their main argument back then, they were sold on its hype.
Nowadays they'd likely use baseballin the Meteor for Kirby win & faster speed via Warp Star.
Nowadays they'd likely use baseballin the Meteor for Kirby win & faster speed via Warp Star.
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Man it is true we somehow got Lex vs Doom Hero Version.
What the **** happened to comics in DB
S6 had variety that felt better, even if Ben vs Hal is a shitshow. Earlier seasons were fine too, even S4.
In S7 we got 3 Spider-Man characters and many repeaters and similar characters. Cable vs BG was only fresh one and Canary was boring.
What if we would have gotten Dormammu vs Trigon and Ant-man vs Atom instead of these armor repeaters? How many here would trade Lex vs Doom & Bruce vs Tony for those?
What the **** happened to comics in DB
S6 had variety that felt better, even if Ben vs Hal is a shitshow. Earlier seasons were fine too, even S4.
In S7 we got 3 Spider-Man characters and many repeaters and similar characters. Cable vs BG was only fresh one and Canary was boring.
What if we would have gotten Dormammu vs Trigon and Ant-man vs Atom instead of these armor repeaters? How many here would trade Lex vs Doom & Bruce vs Tony for those?
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I would like to change bats vs Tony to Ant man vs Atom
Lex vs Doom seems ± fine to me.
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Lex vs Doom was also good, but victim of circumstances. Its probably better than most of S7 comics fights, but man did it get "comics again" complaints.
Its going to be worrying sign if those keep to continue.
Its going to be worrying sign if those keep to continue.
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S7 really ruined folks perception of Comics in DB
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Ok, got curious on how I really feel about Lex vs Doom compared to S7 Comic fights and it actually is better than most of them.
I just don't care for Miles & Static as much.
Canary vs Sindel was underwhelming. Genos vs WM too.
Cable vs BG is equal, but frankly it was uglier ep with that Dino.
She-Ra was underwhelming.
Flash vs Sonic is better than Lex vs Doom, but DC getting more wins and that hidden Archie Sonic hate in that ep kinda sucks, even if he loses to high-end Wally.
WS vs RH only merit is live action which I dont care for.
I actually think Venom vs Crona is actually surprisingly good theme but they dropped the ball hard on that ep.
Barb vs Gwen nah.
And I guess technically Hulk vs Broly is better, but that ep had quite a number of problem and its nowhere near as good as Hulk vs DD.
So yeah, Lex vs Doom is relatively good episode compared to S7 Comic fights.
I just don't care for Miles & Static as much.
Canary vs Sindel was underwhelming. Genos vs WM too.
Cable vs BG is equal, but frankly it was uglier ep with that Dino.
She-Ra was underwhelming.
Flash vs Sonic is better than Lex vs Doom, but DC getting more wins and that hidden Archie Sonic hate in that ep kinda sucks, even if he loses to high-end Wally.
WS vs RH only merit is live action which I dont care for.
I actually think Venom vs Crona is actually surprisingly good theme but they dropped the ball hard on that ep.
Barb vs Gwen nah.
And I guess technically Hulk vs Broly is better, but that ep had quite a number of problem and its nowhere near as good as Hulk vs DD.
So yeah, Lex vs Doom is relatively good episode compared to S7 Comic fights.
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