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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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No not really
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Shin from FoTNS
Blonde antagonists from 80s manga that can pierce people with their fingers, both first started out as main hero's friend, but eventually betrayed the main hero for their personal goals and ambitions. Both also had an incredible amount of followers and minions. Eventually they meet with their rivals (Jonathan and Kenshiro) and lose to them, because of their improved martial arts skills.
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Nah, Alucard is Dio's most fair match, but definetly not the best
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99% of what you listed are basic vampire cliches, you can just put Dio or Alucard against any other vampire and it wouldn't change
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I don't agree with
And connections aren't everything
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Yeah, but they're arguably the most important thing in a match-up
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No not really lol.
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Goku vs Superman 3. Death battle will use every single incarnation of them to ever exist. The fight will be one second of Superman dabbing and annihilating the entire dragon ball verse.
Wiz: Superman is literally beyond omnipotent because [explanation of DC's insane cosmology that dubiously scales to some obscure version of Superman]
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Connections make things better, but they don't make Matchups good on their own.
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Dio's best MU is Griffith from berserk
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You literally just need to use thought robot you don't need dubious scaling
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He would be if only we would see Griffith fight in his Femto form
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Yeah but Griffith's best opponent is Sephiroth
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No it's not, it's Satan from Devilman
Felicia GN wrote dio vs griffith with femto included and it worked so
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Having a relation with a vampire-slaying family is a common vampire cliche
Being sadistic is a common vampire cliche
Having stylish appearance is definetly a common vampire cliche
Ability to augment their abilities by consuming blood is also pretty common for vampires
The only things exclusive to them are having relationship with a priest and having respect for humans that can beat them lol
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Sure as a written fight
Animated not do much
Neither characters power set clash well with each other
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I still think Marie(persona 4) is still the best thematic matchup for Weather Report
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The Unwritten Gilgamesh in a fight
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Like Kratos vs Asura for an example
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Exactly.
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Also another good opponent for Dio is surprisingly Orochi from KoF
-Both are towheaded villains
-Both emerged 100 years later after they were defeated
-Both have a rivalry with main hero's family
-Both have a shit ton of minions
-One of their minions is an evil priest who acted as a main antagonist too
-Their body parts (Orochi blood and Dio's parasites) had terrible effects on people
-Both came back in a body of other character
I prefer Shin vs Dio, but this match works too, i guess
-Both are towheaded villains
-Both emerged 100 years later after they were defeated
-Both have a rivalry with main hero's family
-Both have a shit ton of minions
-One of their minions is an evil priest who acted as a main antagonist too
-Their body parts (Orochi blood and Dio's parasites) had terrible effects on people
-Both came back in a body of other character
I prefer Shin vs Dio, but this match works too, i guess
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Okay so? They still apply to Dio and Alucard as characters. And no, that's not the only thing exclusive to them lmao. They both also summon familiar/spirit-like beings to fight for them.
Also, so what the connections are cliche (even tho they aren't imo), it's kinda justifiable as Alucard IS Count Dracula.
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So Alucard vs Dio's connections are generic but these aren't? Lol
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Yeah, but they apply to other vampires as well, you can just put up Dio and Alucard against any other vampire and it wouldn't ******* change anything
Baskerville and other shit from Alucard is different from za warudo, but i get your point, yeah
And?
I guess so, that's definetly not Dio's best match, Shin is still here and i do think Alucard works better than Orochi because at least it's more fair
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I think Dio vs Griffith has good animation potential. I trust the animation team, frankly
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Literally no. Maybe some things, but every vampire story has differences while having the same basic shit.
Sure
I mean Dracula kickstarted the vampire tropes. It is Alucard's true identity (Based heavily on Bram Stoker's to be exact)
I don't know Shin, but I still prefer Alucard heavily.
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If we don't get Alucard vs Dio, I'm gonna be pissed that they missed so much potential for Dialogue between and amazing Animation Potential and don't get me started on the music potential. I can already see them getting Takahata101 to voice Alucard for it.
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I mean I know The team is talented but there just some fights that just don't work well
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frankly expecting it to not be alucard vs dio is silly, we know it's happening
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Yeah, but 80% of what you listed are basically in all vampires, it may differ, but it would still be kinda same in terms of connections
Ok, i guess
Then i recommend you to watch Fist Of The North Star, if you liked Jojo, it's a pretty good-ass show and Araki himself was inspired by it
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I mean it obvious it's gonna happen this year
The crew stated the fight is gonna happen at some point
Was a DBX
Was hinted to be This season Halloween episode
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The only reason i kinda want Dio vs Alucard is just hearing Antfish as Dio again
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Valid valid. Tho one more thing I would point out is that some of the vampire tropes really apply to iterations of Dracula/fictional vampires loosely based off of Dracula. But fair enough.
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Lot of similarities between both of these characters only problem is I don't think sailor moon is anywhere near on madoka's level in terms of power or whatever.
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