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DC Profile Clean-up and Revisions Part 2

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Nether nine said:
Nth Metal was able to block energy blasts from Mandrak in Unexpected #7 when Mandrakk was fighting Neon and Hawkman in the Nil which just released this month. Should Nth Metal be High-1B possibly 1-A?
Should Thanagarians like Hawkman be High-1B possibly 1-A via Nth Metal Mace?

The entire fight took place in the Nil where the heroes became the same size as the Monitors. Hawkman and Neon and Quench are High-1B likely 1-A now.

https://***************.to/Comic/The-Unexpected/Issue-7?id=145199
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How the hell... I thought the Nil was erased by the Monitor-Mind. And yeah, that's definitely at outlier. Rebirth just seems to be full of them nowadays. We have Superman claiming he could perform a Low 2-C feat if he wanted to, he might fight with a High 2-A and not die instantly, and now we have a metal, which isn't even fully pure, deflecting an attack from an infinite dimensional plot eating vampire? And with Mandrakk alive once more, that would also mean he came back from erasure from a Tier 0.
 
Elizio33 said:
In this sca, the Anti-Monitor is the embodiment of entropy and this sca, The Monitor is powered by all positive matter universe in the multiverse. I found a respect thread on the anti-monitor here.
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I have already replied to you about this elsewhere.

The Anti-Monitor being an embodiment of entropy seems like a figure of speech, not a literal statement, and the Monitor drawing energy from all positive matter is not the same as containing all the sum total power of infinite space-time continuums within him.
 
LordUrien935 said:
In JL #8 (or was it 9?) Hawkgirl drew blood from Martian Manhunter during a training session by smacking him with her mace.
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I think that is a typical comicbook inconsistency. A 4-B Hawkgirl seems very exaggerated.
 
The Monitors seem to be far weaker in regular 3-D space than in the Monitor sphere, but even so, regular superheroes standing up to Mandrakk is a massive outlier.
 
@Ant

I think you are replying to the wrong person. I do not know about Antimonitor drawing or being anything of Entropy.

Also, that outlier fight where the heroes are standing up to Mandrakk and deflected his attacks with Nth Metal is literally taking place in the Monitor Sphere/Nil which is a High-1B likely 1-A location.

It seems to me that the Monitor Sphere makes even mere heroes and humans stepping into it to become High-1B. The Heroes became nearly equal the size of Mandrakk and Monitors who are High-1B and dwarf the Multiverse. That is really strange.

That may explain why Monitors are weaker in 3-D space because their power is merely due to the location of the realm they are in, not because they are naturally High-1B likely 1-A but because the nature of the world makes them that way. Because even mere Humans can become Monitor Sized High-1B likely 1-As so long as they are in the Nil, they only need to be transported there. But they lose that power if they return.

I think if you put even Batman inside the Nil, even he can become High-1B likely 1-A, but returning him back to a normal universe makes him 3 dimensional. And his power from the realm he is previously in doesn't carry with him and changes depending on the universe he is in. Same with Monitors. I think the Cosmic Hierarchy in DC works more like in abstract relativity to the realms below the character's location than actual power.

It's like how Boom Tubes make Superman larger than a Universe when he is in New Genesis. The Monitor Sphere makes any entity living inside it High-1B likely 1-A just as the New God's realm makes anyone stepping in it automatically at least 2-C.
 
Sorry. I accidentally quoted the wrong post. I fixed it.

I agree that Monitor space seems similar to that of the New Gods.

Alternately, it is just Marvel's and DC's nightmarish levels of inconsistency between writers at work again.
 
I have already replied to you about this elsewhere.

The Anti-Monitor being an embodiment of entropy seems like a figure of speech, not a literal statement, and the Monitor drawing energy from all positive matter is not the same as containing all the sum total power of infinite space-time continuums within him.

I have forgotten to delete my post after you answered my question elsewhere. My mistake. But i found interesting stuffs on a respect thread about the Anti-Monitor and the Monitor new abilities, and more here. </div>
 
I don't have the time to read it. Sorry.
 
What ratings do you suggest?
 
If he is scaled from the initial post-Flashpoint Superman, then no.
 
The school calc got accepted. If you can open the profiles that scale to Post-Flashpoint Batman I can do the editing for you.
 
You need to write a list of all the exact titles of the profile pages that I need to unlock for you.
 
Okay. I will unlock the profiles for you.
 
All that the page states is that Perpetua is stronger than the Anti-Monitor, but we do not know how much stronger yet.

We should wait with creating a profile until we know considerably more.
 
Also, a problem with our DC profiles is that we scale the DC multiverse from J.M. DeMatteis' perception of it, as an infinite-dimensional construct, which is far greater than that of most other writers, including Grant Morrison, which creates massive inconsistencies in our scaling.
 
Even DC's Multiverse Map by Grant Morrison doesn't look High-1B.

It looks only 10-Dimensional when you really think about it. There's only 6 levels above the 4D Universe and ends at the Monitor Sphere and the Source Wall. If you solely go by Morrison's definition of his constructs.

The Monitor Sphere is a likely 1-A realm, but it's still wobbly.
 
Yes, I know, but his cosmology is being used, and other writers also generally do not seem to use DeMatteis' version of the DC multiverse either.
 
That part when you realize that the 1-A Monitor Sphere and the 1-A Source Wall is occasionally and technically regarded as a part of the DC Multiverse according to several definitions and even the map itself.

The Source Wall is repeatedly stated as the boundary of the Multiverse, meaning the 1-A Monitor Sphere is also part of it.

Strange isn't it?
 
If the Source wall was truly a 1-A construct, ordinary DC supervillains would not have been able to break her out, and other characters (Ares, Darkseid, etcetera) would not have been able to escape from it in the past.
 
Everyone please notice that the Overvoid was literally called just the Void in these new scans. Without "Over". Confirming that the White Void before Creation in non-Morrisonid DC Cosmology scans like Matteis's Void and M. Carey's Void and the Morrison Overvoid are the same.
 
Okay, but 1-A seems very exaggerated so far.
 
She should probably be more powerful than the Monitors at least. I mean, she was locked up in the Source Wall after all. And she is feared more than they are.

We're still waiting for confirmation of High-1B Rebirth cosmology, because although there are Infinite Multiverses, Snyder never confirmed anything of High-1B.

It's very very very wonky to reject Tier 0 Matteis Presence but accept High-1B Matteis cosmology. It's about time High-1B became more mainstream in DC.
 
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