- 8,416
- 10,661
Just more solidification of him being the fastest cinematic character, that and I believe nanoseconds are in the LS rangeWhat do we get from Flash's interpretation of being able to finish in nanoseconds in the cemetery?
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Just more solidification of him being the fastest cinematic character, that and I believe nanoseconds are in the LS rangeWhat do we get from Flash's interpretation of being able to finish in nanoseconds in the cemetery?
I mean it's obvious Flash can easily break light speed before the events of JL given how he says he has his "rule"What do we get from Flash's interpretation of being able to finish in nanoseconds in the cemetery?
You mean supes scaling to flash’s higher lvl of speed?yes, but what ı am saying is, could this nanosecond Flash's constant speed? If so, Superman react to his speed, doesn't scaled to the constant speed of Flash?
He said Cyborg could do it too.Just more solidification of him being the fastest cinematic character, that and I believe nanoseconds are in the LS range
Outliers? I don't see any outliers? Just more proof for mftl+.According to this, digging graves takes about 8-10 hours for someone with no experience and 4-5 with a helper and experience so the four ends would be X*60*60*1,000,000,000 where X is the hours needed to get how many times faster he can dig the grave. Assuming an average human's digging and movement speeds are proportional to each other, we take the minimum 5 m/s for an average human and get the following.
As expected of a feat that normally takes a third of the day being done in a nanosecond, we got MFTL+ on every end which means outliers. Hooray!!!
- 4 hours = 7.2e13 m/s = 240166c
- 5 hours = 9e13 m/s = 300207c
- 8 hours = 1.44e14 m/s = 480332c
- 10 hours = 1.8e14 m/s = 600415c
The issue with this calc is, that is assuming that they are digging deep enough to fit a casket, in this case, most of the area of the grave has already been taken by the casket which is how much they actually need to dig. They're only digging till the tip of the casket, not all the way to the bottom.According to this, digging graves takes about 8-10 hours for someone with no experience and 4-5 with a helper and experience so the four ends would be X*60*60*1,000,000,000 where X is the hours needed to get how many times faster he can dig the grave. Assuming an average human's digging and movement speeds are proportional to each other, we take the minimum 5 m/s for an average human and get the following.
As expected of a feat that normally takes a third of the day being done in a nanosecond, we got MFTL+ on every end which means outliers. Hooray!!!
- 4 hours = 7.2e13 m/s = 240166c
- 5 hours = 9e13 m/s = 300207c
- 8 hours = 1.44e14 m/s = 480332c
- 10 hours = 1.8e14 m/s = 600415c
No. No. No. Mftl+ DCEU has been found, and we will stop at nothing to reclaim it.Outliers cuz this is meant to be his casual speed which should be sub lightspeed according to his rules but here we have him going hilariously beyond light.
in fairness it doesn't seem like something he can do for longer periodsIt's not that Flash can't casually break light speed but that he has his "rule" not to break light speed (which shows that he can easily do so before even meeting Bruce).
Cyborg also implies he could do it too which is somethingOutliers cuz this is meant to be his casual speed which should be sub lightspeed according to his rules but here we have him going hilariously beyond light.
Actually, I don't think Flash will joke about his speed and I using to take the topic of Cyborg's speed as his "processing speed", not combat.(I just wanted to say) But if you say you don't have enough evidence, yes I don't have enough evidenceAlso it could always just be a joking statement considering it's just small talk between Flash and Cyborg.
Considering flash’s knows Jack all about cyborg I doubt that nanosecond statement applies to himActually, I don't think Flash will joke about his speed and I using to take the topic of Cyborg's speed as his "processing speed", not combat.(I just wanted to say) But if you say you don't have enough evidence, yes I don't have enough evidence
Probably over exaggerating then considering he has never shown speed anywhere close to that lvlBut Cyborg agrees.
Basically we need two keys for characters in Snyder’s films with a few exceptions (Darkseid), one accounting for the main canon (including JL) and one for the SnyderVerse (Zack’s trilogy plus WW)What are the conclusions here so far and who agree with what?
True but it’s still impressive scaling since it goes Revived Supes >> Steppenwolf > JL > weak Supes > World EngineWell given that the Kryptonian environment supposedly weakened Superman when he busted the World Engine he shouldn't be so far off from his BvS self
Thing is also statues Steppenwolf and hasn’t the best feats by farAgree on what Hellbeast said for DCEU but why does the rel stuff go away for SnyderVerse? It’s all sub rel and still the most consistent speed. I don’t even know where the rel+ comes from when everything in the linked calc isn’t on that level. Even the rel feat isn’t half of baseline rel+. Everyone else getting statued isn’t as high as people think when everyone was caught in a deadlock against Supes and after that he throws them. It’s not like they can respond in mid air after just getting launched by someone >>>>>> them. This is also consistent with Diana responding to Flash pushing her sword back. They are slower to a notable extent but it isn’t like they can’t do anything at all.
Okay. Thank you for the summary.Basically we need two keys for characters in Snyder’s films with a few exceptions (Darkseid), one accounting for the main canon (including JL) and one for the SnyderVerse (Zack’s trilogy plus WW)
Theatrical:
Everyone gets downgraded to at least High 7-A based on Supes oneshotting the World Engine while weakened and some other feats (we could do with a few other calcs tho)
Ares gets a key for his weakened self in WW (evidence above) and his full power self and Zeus get either a “High 7-A, likely far higher” or a baseline “6-C” based on them being >>> everyone else.
Some characters get additional powers but that’s above and I have to update the list
SnyderVerse:
Basically no one scales to Superman at all but the Old Gods so we’d need another feat for the lower tiers (maybe the 7-A from Doomsday?)
The Rel+ would also be replaced with MhS since WW blocks lightning in her solo film
mostly just waiting for evaluationsOkay. Thank you for the summary.
Are there any known feats that you need calculated?
When did it smash a mountain?I think it's that the World Engine was completely fine smashing into Earth so hard a mountain exploded, and Superman flew through it while weakened like it was nothing
That is true, but only after Superman flew through it, the World Engine exploded. Like he attacked the core or something.I think it's that the World Engine was completely fine smashing into Earth so hard a mountain exploded, and Superman flew through it while weakened like it was nothing
in the background of its landingWhen did it smash a mountain?
Yeah but he still broke through the Kryptonian material despite being weakened by its atmosphereThat is true, but only after Superman flew through it, the World Engine exploded. Like he attacked the core or something.
I looked at it and it just looked like only the top was blown offin the background of its landing
Yeah but he still broke through the Kryptonian material despite being weakened by its atmosphere
is that the engine itself crash into earth? Could do a meteor calc if we have a size for them which would get some decent results.I think it's that the World Engine was completely fine smashing into Earth so hard a mountain exploded, and Superman flew through it while weakened like it was nothing
Okay. If you link to the calculations, I can ask some other calc group members to take a look.mostly just waiting for evaluations
Okay, thanks.Okay. If you link to the calculations, I can ask some other calc group members to take a look.